Hi everyone, I just got myself a 28/30 staged 2bl. It's off a Volkswagen Golf II. It's a Pierburg 2E.
I'd like to feed my good ol' 170 with it. I know... I should seek a BBS or a BBD but here in Europe, I can't seem to find any of those for the prices I'd like to pay... Since there ain't no Big 1bl. Carb, it seemed to me this 28/30 could do the job.
What do you think about it? Of course I'm planning to tune it properly but I first post post this message before rebuilding it in case somebody tell me to stop because it will start the 3rd world war or anything...
Thanks for your help!

Marc

Sounds perfect to me.

I'm a proponent of 2-stage carbs.

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Ed
64 Valiant 225 / 904 / 42:1 manual steering / 9" drum brakes

I think is going to be perfect, I'm experimenting with euro staged 2bbl like solex from peugeots and that stuff. they work better than a regular 2bbl.

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Juan Ignacio Caino

Please use e-mail button istead of PM'ing. I do log in sometimes but I'll be answering quicker thru e-mail.

H'mmm. I think you may find that particular Pierburg 2E is too small for your 170 (2,8 litre), because that carburetor was used on VW models with engines between 1,3 and 1,6 litre, about half the displacement of your engine. I cannot find a picture of the mounting flange, so I do not know what kind of adaptation you would have to do, but here is what they look like from the top:



H'mmm. Lots of hookups and connections! Hope you have got some documentation available for this carburetor. Let us know how it works out!

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Too many people who were born on third base actually believe they've hit a triple.

Right,might be a little small. But compared to a 1bl..What can i get, acceleration bog? Lean at high rpms?
For the vacuum hoses and all that stuff, i'll just tear it up. I just want a carb that makes my car works!!! I'll even drive without a kickdown for a while i think...

That gets me to thinkin'... how 'bout TWO of 'em! -mounted on something like an Offy intake...

I know, I'm makin' it complicated now

Sure would look cool though.

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Brian (Valianator)

'65 Valiant V100 170/T-flite
'82 D150 225/4-speed
'65 Dart 225 4 door
'68 Dart 225 4-door with Valiant front clip (future project)

DO NOT DRIVE WITHOUT A KICKDOWN! you will ruin the transmission.

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The overall area is between the small BBS for the 170 and the large BBS for the 225.

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Ed
64 Valiant 225 / 904 / 42:1 manual steering / 9" drum brakes

Interesting, where did you come across this information?

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Too many people who were born on third base actually believe they've hit a triple.

Math..........

bbs 1 9/16..... 1.5625"..... 1.917sqin
BBS 1 11/16.... 1.6875"..... 2.237sqin
28mm/30mm.... 1.102" + 1.181" = .954sqin + 1.096sqin = 2.05sqin

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Ed
64 Valiant 225 / 904 / 42:1 manual steering / 9" drum brakes

Lookit that...staring me right in the face and I looked right past it!

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Too many people who were born on third base actually believe they've hit a triple.

Well, how can it ruin it since when you're not at WOT, the kickdown isn't engaged? Just what I think, i'm a newbie in auto trans and not really good in anything !

Actually it is engaged........

The kickdown linkage is also a throttle position sensor for the transmission. It's only at the WOT position that it will force a downshift (if it's possible to do)

The more throttle you have, the higher the shift speed and the higher the internal pressure for various internal transmission circuits.

Without the throttle position sensor, the transmission will shift at low speeds, and have low pressures on the bands, etc. no matter how you're actually driving.

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Ed
64 Valiant 225 / 904 / 42:1 manual steering / 9" drum brakes

Like a throttle position sensor, ok...
What about kickdown cables? Are they just plain cables? They list at 50$ for a lokar. If it's just a cable, I can do it myself!! Did anyone do this before?

Marc

P.S : is the length of the cable a critical point?

Speaking of which, how do you ID, or should I say find, staged as opposed to non-staged? Is one much more common than the other? Did Mopar go one way or the other?

TIA