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Catherine
PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2002 3:51 pm 
Hi,

I own a 1970 Dart - I bought it from someone in CA, and drove it back cross-country to central NJ, where I live. I've had the transmission, distributor and radiator replaced, and the engine is running smoothly. One problem I'm having tho is that the car enjoys stalling when I come to a stop. My mechanic tells me it'll need a new motor - but I'm used to Darts running forever. Since I'm not a mechanic, I'm wondering what exactly he means by that.

Is there anyone here in the NJ/NYC region that would like to take a look at it, or better yet, help me get the motor running without the stalling problems?

thanks!

-catherine

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bud L.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2002 5:45 pm 
I have no idea why a stalling problem equates to needing a new engine. If it doesn't burn excessive amounts of oil, doesn't make scary noises, has oil pressure, it can start and run, then it sounds like it just needs a little 'tweaking'. Not enough information, but I'd suggest a good old fashioned tune-up for starters: points, plugs, cap & rotor and adjust the valves(properly). Don't forget to check the ignition timing. A compression test and a vacuum reading would be very helpful, too.
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:
: Hi,
:
: I own a 1970 Dart - I bought it from someone in
: CA, and drove it back cross-country to
: central NJ, where I live. I've had the
: transmission, distributor and radiator
: replaced, and the engine is running
: smoothly. One problem I'm having tho is that
: the car enjoys stalling when I come to a
: stop. My mechanic tells me it'll need a new
: motor - but I'm used to Darts running
: forever. Since I'm not a mechanic, I'm
: wondering what exactly he means by that.
:
: Is there anyone here in the NJ/NYC region that
: would like to take a look at it, or better
: yet, help me get the motor running without
: the stalling problems?
:
: thanks!
:
: -catherine



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james longhurst
PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2002 6:56 pm 
sounds like a vacuum leak to me. does it idle ok otherwise? try spraying a little carb cleaner around the intake gaskets, carb base and throttle shaft. if the idle changes, you've found your leak. repair it and it should run fine as long as the rest of the engine is ok.

-james

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Herman (LEE) Schulz
PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2002 8:58 pm 
Quote:
: Hi,
:
: I own a 1970 Dart - I bought it from someone in
: CA, and drove it back cross-country to
: central NJ, where I live. I've had the
: transmission, distributor and radiator
: replaced, and the engine is running
: smoothly. One problem I'm having tho is that
: the car enjoys stalling when I come to a
: stop. My mechanic tells me it'll need a new
: motor - but I'm used to Darts running
: forever. Since I'm not a mechanic, I'm
: wondering what exactly he means by that.
:
: Is there anyone here in the NJ/NYC region that
: would like to take a look at it, or better
: yet, help me get the motor running without
: the stalling problems?
:
: thanks!
:
: -catherine


I once had a similar problem. After checking all the normal things, that are covered in your other responses, and finding them in good condition I found that the previous owner must never have replaced the crankcase breather. I replaced it and all was well in Dartland! It should be under 10 bucks, worth the try.

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Doctor Dodge (Doug Dutra)
PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2002 10:42 pm 
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: One problem I'm having tho is that
: the car enjoys stalling when I come to a
: stop.
: Is there anyone here in the NJ/NYC region that
: would like to take a look at it, or better
: yet, help me get the motor running without
: the stalling problems?
:
: -catherine


How does it stall? Does it stall at every stop or just when it's cold? (Bad choke adjustment)
Does it stall when you slow down easy to a stop or only when you stop real fast? (High carb. float level)
Does it stop and runs rough for a moment then stalls? (Choke or idle adjustment/ tune-up)
Does it stall when you try to step on the gas to go again? (blown vacuum pod, bad accelator pump, retarded timing)

As you can see, there are many reasons this can happen and it does *not* mean the engine needs rebuilding.
If I were to tell you to do one thing, it would be to advance the initial timing, crank-in another 6-8 degrees to see if that helps (run it at 10-12º BTDC)
Seeing that you need others to do the work, keep looking for an "old school" mechanic and use the list of ideas here to "quiz" the mechanics to be sure they look into the right places for the cause.
DD
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Joel
PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2002 10:52 am 
I don't think that stalling means a new engine. In addition to all of the previously mentioned things, you may just need to clean out the carberator. I got a kit and rebuilt mine and now my Duster runs better every time I drive it. Have you replaced your vacuum hoses. Many times a small slit in a hose can cause major problems. Do you have a new fuel filter? It really doesn't sound like a major engine problem. I think it will be a matter of doing some adjusting and some cleaning.

Joel

Hi,
Quote:
:
: I own a 1970 Dart - I bought it from someone in
: CA, and drove it back cross-country to
: central NJ, where I live. I've had the
: transmission, distributor and radiator
: replaced, and the engine is running
: smoothly. One problem I'm having tho is that
: the car enjoys stalling when I come to a
: stop. My mechanic tells me it'll need a new
: motor - but I'm used to Darts running
: forever. Since I'm not a mechanic, I'm
: wondering what exactly he means by that.
:
: Is there anyone here in the NJ/NYC region that
: would like to take a look at it, or better
: yet, help me get the motor running without
: the stalling problems?
:
: thanks!
:
: -catherine



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Catherine
PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2002 11:13 am 
It stalls every time I stop - whether it's stepping on the brakes at a stop sign or slowing down slowly in my driveway.

I'm making a list of all of the things people here have recommended, and am also getting a second opinion from another mechanic I know - hopefully it won't require replacing the engine.

-catherine
Quote:
:
: How does it stall? Does it stall at every stop
: or just when it's cold? (Bad choke
: adjustment)
: Does it stall when you slow down easy to a stop
: or only when you stop real fast? (High carb.
: float level)
: Does it stop and runs rough for a moment then
: stalls? (Choke or idle adjustment/ tune-up)
: Does it stall when you try to step on the gas
: to go again? (blown vacuum pod, bad
: accelator pump, retarded timing)
:
: As you can see, there are many reasons this can
: happen and it does *not* mean the engine
: needs rebuilding.
: If I were to tell you to do one thing, it would
: be to advance the initial timing, crank-in
: another 6-8 degrees to see if that helps
: (run it at 10-12º BTDC)
: Seeing that you need others to do the work,
: keep looking for an "old school"
: mechanic and use the list of ideas here to
: "quiz" the mechanics to be sure
: they look into the right places for the
: cause.
: DD



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Chuck Rivers
PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2002 11:29 am 
Checking the vacuum hoses and attached parts is a good suggestion. Pull off the hose from the carb that goes to the distributor and suck on the end, then put your toung over the hole. The vacuum you create should hold the hose to your toung. If not, the vacuum advance pot is bad. Do the same check with the choke pull-off. You can use a vacuum tester if you have one. Any pot that doesn't hold vacuum needs to be replaced.

Chuck
Quote:
:
: Hi,
:
: I own a 1970 Dart - I bought it from someone in
: CA, and drove it back cross-country to
: central NJ, where I live. I've had the
: transmission, distributor and radiator
: replaced, and the engine is running
: smoothly. One problem I'm having tho is that
: the car enjoys stalling when I come to a
: stop. My mechanic tells me it'll need a new
: motor - but I'm used to Darts running
: forever. Since I'm not a mechanic, I'm
: wondering what exactly he means by that.
:
: Is there anyone here in the NJ/NYC region that
: would like to take a look at it, or better
: yet, help me get the motor running without
: the stalling problems?
:
: thanks!
:
: -catherine



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Joel
PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2002 11:45 am 
It sounds like the fuel just isn't feeding well. Get a new fuel filter if you haven't already and get some Gumout carb cleaner. If that improves things, you may just have a dirty or plugged carberator.

Joel

It stalls every time I stop - whether it's
Quote:
: stepping on the brakes at a stop sign or
: slowing down slowly in my driveway.
:
: I'm making a list of all of the things people
: here have recommended, and am also getting a
: second opinion from another mechanic I know
: - hopefully it won't require replacing the
: engine.
:
: -catherine



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Dart270
PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2002 11:52 am 
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: It stalls every time I stop - whether it's


That sounds an awful lot like a vacuum leak, or that the valves need to be adjusted. Any decent mechanic can tackle these simple jobs, and they should be cheap to try.

Lou
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Eric W
PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2002 11:56 am 
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: sounds like a vacuum leak to me. does it idle
: ok otherwise? try spraying a little carb
: cleaner around the intake gaskets, carb base
: and throttle shaft. if the idle changes,
: you've found your leak. repair it and it
: should run fine as long as the rest of the
: engine is ok.
:
: -james

Check your float level, sounds like your float could be set to low.
Eric W

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Ed V.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2002 7:54 pm 
Quote:
: Hi,
:
: I own a 1970 Dart - I bought it from someone in
: CA, and drove it back cross-country to
: central NJ, where I live. I've had the
: transmission, distributor and radiator
: replaced, and the engine is running
: smoothly. One problem I'm having tho is that
: the car enjoys stalling when I come to a
: stop. My mechanic tells me it'll need a new
: motor - but I'm used to Darts running
: forever. Since I'm not a mechanic, I'm
: wondering what exactly he means by that.
:
: Is there anyone here in the NJ/NYC region that
: would like to take a look at it, or better
: yet, help me get the motor running without
: the stalling problems?
:
: thanks!
:
: -catherine

Has it had this problem since you got the car or did it begin after any of the work you mentioned was performed? Was this work done by the same person who told you that you may need a new engine? Ed V.

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