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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:02 pm 
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She's a 1969 Ford Falcon Station Wagon,..i know i know :cry: but im selling her in order to fix up my 73 dart swinger. Freshly rebuilt 302 with matching numbers(MSD 6AL ignition). 2 month-old paint job ($3500). Original interior in beautiful condition. Only flaws i can think of on the car is the headliner, it's not ripeed or anything but the stictching is undone. I'm plannin on getting it restitched before I sell it.

Take a look at the pictures and please give me an honest answer on what someone would pay for it. I'm planning on selling her here in my local area. the sooner i have a price..the sonner i have money to fix up the super six in my swinger :)

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:08 pm 
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rocks at me , but , it looks as tho somebody put 5-6 k into a 2000.00 dollar car ... 1969 falcon is far from the desireable years like the 63 1/2 64 sprint or a a futura convert or a 2 door wagon, or a squire with wood...numbers matching don't mean a whore lot to a plain jane wagon...not like a 440 six pack or an L79 or something... SOMEBODY WILL WANT THE CAR , BUT IT UNFORTUNATELY PROBABLY WON'T bring what you want outta it... Ignore caps.. dr


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:04 pm 
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rocks at me , but , it looks as tho somebody put 5-6 k into a 2000.00 dollar car ... 1969 falcon is far from the desireable years like the 63 1/2 64 sprint or a a futura convert or a 2 door wagon, or a squire with wood...numbers matching don't mean a whore lot to a plain jane wagon...not like a 440 six pack or an L79 or something... SOMEBODY WILL WANT THE CAR , BUT IT UNFORTUNATELY PROBABLY WON'T bring what you want outta it... Ignore caps.. dr
in other words, a bag of doritos and a six pack? :roll:

now seriously, looks like a clean car (even being a furd...)

and for the sake of accuracy, 2 door wagons="Courier" :wink:

just because we hate them doesn't mean we have to behave like the "dacudas" bonehead guys that doc pictured very well in a thread some time ago.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:36 pm 
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no word on the price though?
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 Post subject: Price
PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:55 am 
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Put it on EbAy---- set your reserve for the price you have. Then see what the market will pay for your car-- The car looks very nice & all you need is 2 people wanting your ride. Good Luck


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 Post subject: 2 door VS Courier...
PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:08 am 
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and for the sake of accuracy, 2 door wagons="Courier" .. Maybe where you come from ....from the I love F@#ds site... "The Courier is a delivery vehicle, based on an entry-level Ford station wagon. Through 1961 it was a full-size Ford; beginning in 1962 it was a Falcon. However, a Falcon "sedan delivery" was offered in 1960 and 1961, which was later to become the Courier in 1962". Do a search for Falcon 2 door wagon... I have seen several.. one last week on CL...and also they made a sedan delivery in 1964 my dad's company had one with a v8 3 speed...While it appears all Couriers were 2 door wagons...not all wagons were couriers.. just for the sake of accuracy... :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: 2 door VS Courier...
PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:42 am 
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and for the sake of accuracy, 2 door wagons="Courier" .. Maybe where you come from ....from the I love F@#ds site... "The Courier is a delivery vehicle, based on an entry-level Ford station wagon. Through 1961 it was a full-size Ford; beginning in 1962 it was a Falcon. However, a Falcon "sedan delivery" was offered in 1960 and 1961, which was later to become the Courier in 1962". Do a search for Falcon 2 door wagon... I have seen several.. one last week on CL...and also they made a sedan delivery in 1964 my dad's company had one with a v8 3 speed...While it appears all Couriers were 2 door wagons...not all wagons were couriers.. just for the sake of accuracy... :wink:
didn't you say falcon? I just had to slap you a little :wink: because my dad owns a 62 falcon courier. It's an IL6. (American made, not made in the third world as you might suggest/think). All falcon 2 door wagons I have ever seen are couriers, maybe that's the only stuff that furd imported for us "indians" to have... :roll:

That's the funny part. The less funny part is your $#!+ of an attitude with a guy seeking for a little advice on setting a price over his car. (BTW, I think that $5k would be fair given the amount of work there!)

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 11:29 am 
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Juan's right. If the only "real" value of a car was down to dollars in vs. dollars out, most of us would've sent our cars off to be melted a long time ago, rather than carry on putting money into them that we will in all likelihood never see back. C'mon, I put $1200 worth of interior restoration into a 4-door '71 Dart I paid $600 for...and that's only counting the interior restoration. You think I think I'm ever going to see it back, penny-for-penny and dollar-for-dollar? Of course not! There are days (weeks, months, years) when the only justification for a hobby such as ours is "it's less injurious to our health than drugs". The MBA theory of vehicle worth would have everything "less" than a Hemi'Cuda stripped for any usable parts and then destroyed. I'm glad we don't live in that world.

The problem with owning (and trading in) cars of interest to limited numbers of people is that unless you're very lucky, you either have to sell for far less than you realistically want, or you have to wait a long time for the right buyer with the right money. There was a clean 34k-original-miles 4-door Dart on eBay a while ago. Top bid was $2700, reserve was $4700. Did I want the car? Of course. Did I have $4.7k burning a hole in my pocket? No. But could I reasonably call the car overpriced? Not so much. It's hard to get close to a 34k-mile real car for $4700 on the ordinary used-car market these days.

I agree that $4500 to $5200 range is appropriate for this '69 wagon. Now all that remains is to put it on www.collectorcartrader.com and wait for the right buyer.

A couple other notes:

-Unless a real heartstealer comes along (that low-miles Dart came really close) and the buyer has and uses the means and opportunity to inspect the car before sale/purchase, I have learnt through hard experience that eBay is a very risky and frequently unsatisfactory venue through which to buy or sell a vehicle.

-Mag00, using all caps means you are SHOUTING IN OUR EARS, whether or not you meant to. Please don't be lazy; your keyboard and mouse are obviously working, so use them to fix your all-caps instead of saying "ignore caps". Also please watch your mouth. The original poster didn't need you to deride his car or his effort, and the US is not the center of the universe. Thanks.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 12:16 pm 
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I am not a ford fan by any means, but I think 5 large is a fair price. it looks very clean.

something must also be said for the area your trying to sell it in. in minnesota a rust free anything pre-75 is worth some solid cash. outside the rust belt, not so much.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:00 pm 
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Surf over to this site: www.aswoa.com and see if you can post it for sale. You'll have a captive audience there. I love wagons and think it's a fair price for a nice looking (from the photos) car. Lemme see if a friend of mine can suggest a Ford site. Good luck, RICK

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 3:05 pm 
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The problem is that you aren't selling a 68 Camaro, 70 Cuda, 64 Chevelle etc. Your car, as well as pretty much all of our slant 6 cars have more of a cult following than anything. When you fix up a car that you like, but most people don't, you will almost certainly never get your money back out of it. Like these guys said, your best plan is to put it up for $5000 and just wait and wait until you get that one person out there that loves old station wagons. As long as you're willing to wait, you'll get a decent price out of it.


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 Post subject: All I said...
PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:36 am 
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was that it was not an ultra disireable automobile... it is not a Sprint, futura, Squire, 2 door wagon, or Bonner clone in the rough... It is not an L88. Z28, 348, or SS... It is not a 340,440 or 426... it is not a.. fill in the blank ... it has little "sex appeal"," curb appeal" or" eye" it is not vitimin C , statutory grape, or Marina blue...It is not a cult car, jhalo car or gotta have it car it is a nice little wagon with nothing special... THAT is all I meant to say...said ..was trying to convey: I like the car , but when there are still a lot of crazy people trying soak the true car guy and the BJ attitude hits the plain jane cars like a 100 percent buyers premium.. well I gotta state fact .. Some body loved(loves) the car and they put a lot of that love into the car... That was all I was trying to convey... I mean, what makes a frikkin' NOVA worth 12-27 alla sudden? The numbers guy want's it , the drag guys want it, the DD guys want it... The Yenko clone guys want it... but cast an eye on the 4 door... this same crazyazz spiral ain't happenin' it's only the disireable stuff that brings out the big wallet... search around for similar stuff... if you ignore the tollay stupid ads you will see that a 70- 72 Duster seems to be "valued" at about twice what a fat bumper car is... and a 4 door? clean one owner stuff goes begging... that is fact...I did not mean to get everybody's hackles up, only to look at the situation UNemotionally... I am sorry that this internet thing has so little tolerance for inflections or subtleties...My apologies to whom so ever I may have offended... I personally feel that the car would make a nice little DD or bracket car.. PS SSD, I real appreciate your obvious insight, experience and pasion for all aspects of the slant and motor vehicles in general. and may wish to ask a question or three at some future date so i certainlly DON"T wish to offend you... BTW... I still do0n't get when caps are to be used to emphasize a point and when it is considered shouting ..again ,my apologies.... dr.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:17 am 
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Thanks for clarifying, Mag00. The difference between using caps for emphasis and caps=shouting is that emphasis is usually confined to one or two words at a time. It's actually better not to use caps for emphasis. Instead, use asterisks or underscores on either side of the word or words you want to emphasise. Do this *each and every* time you want to stress a particular point, and that way people will be _sure_ to understand what you're saying.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 1:27 pm 
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I just saw, yesterday, a '63 or '64 Falcon 4-door wagon I thought my son Aaron should buy for transportation next year when he transfers to Texas A&M University. We've been debating what to do with his Dart Sport when he heads off to college. That wagon was painted in the "AGGIE" maroon, had "TAMU" insignia stitched in the front and rear seat backs, and the 3-speed floor shifter was topped off with a "GIG 'EM" (fist with thumb up in air) polished aluminum knob. Now, that car would be the talk of the campus. I knew Aaron would not be interested, so I didn't bother asking the price. I can, if you would like for me to, triumphant.

See how I underlined the two words I wanted to emphasize above, as opposed to the ones I quoted for literal clarification ? :D

You might also check this site: http://www.falconclub.com/

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