Slant *        6        Forum
Home Home Home
The Place to Go for Slant Six Info!
Click here to help support the Slant Six Forum!
It is currently Wed Dec 24, 2025 12:35 am

All times are UTC-08:00




Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 11 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Decking advantages
PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:54 am 
Offline
Turbo Slant 6

Joined: Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:08 pm
Posts: 616
Location: Nelson, B.C.
Car Model:
I'm building a fairly stock super six with a late model block and was wondering if there are any gains from decking the block and bumping the compression in such a mild motor. It just seems wrong that the pistons sit so low in the cylinders. Will this mod give any performance gains and will running regular still be possible? Sorry if this topic has been asked 100 times already. The motor is for my '64 wagon that we haul lots of heavy food and equipment in if that makes any difference....probably not, I just like giving too much info.

_________________
Image


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:21 am 
Offline
3 Deuce Weber
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 08, 2007 5:12 am
Posts: 63
Car Model:
Well I would advise that some measuring should be done before hand, chances are you will find the current compression isn't even close to what the engine was originally rated. Milling enough to bring it to "spec" shouldn't create any issuses, but milling it a bit more would likely make an aftermarket cam respond a bit better. Keep it 8.5-9.0 or so and regular should be OK, maybe plus.

_________________
225 .030
.020 off the block .100 from head
Comp 264
904 Tranny
New Ebre-ting
Image
http://s78.photobucket.com/albums/j103/edrod01/


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:54 am 
Offline
Board Sponsor & SL6 Racer
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 08, 2002 4:48 pm
Posts: 5835
Location: Burton BC canada
Car Model:
Go ahead and deck it and buy a new cam while its apart.

I run a Comp 264 and 9.25 CR and run on regular fuel.

Decking the block 50 with a stock cam is prolly not a bad idea either (Ive never done it)

_________________
Yeah....Im the one who destroyed this rare, vintage automobile.....

Image


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:11 am 
Offline
Turbo Slant 6

Joined: Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:08 pm
Posts: 616
Location: Nelson, B.C.
Car Model:
I've already got everything for the build including a stock cam (thanks Dave) so I probably won't get a new cam. We do have a turbo slant in the works for another car though but that's for another day. While we're on the topic, what's the equation for calculating CR. I assume stock slants come in somewhere around 7 1/2-8.

_________________
Image


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:39 am 
Offline
Turbo EFI
User avatar

Joined: Tue Feb 18, 2003 7:34 am
Posts: 2479
Location: Lubbock, Texas
Car Model: 1964 Plymouth Valiant V200 Sedan
Here's a CR Calculator

_________________
"When you find a big kettle of crazy, it's best not to stir it." - Pointy-haired Boss

1964 Valiant V200, 225/Pushbutton 904
BBD, CAI, HEI, LBP, AC, AM/FM/USB, EIEIO


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:14 am 
Offline
Board Sponsor & Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 21, 2002 11:08 am
Posts: 17295
Location: Blacksburg, VA
Car Model:
Yes, a stock 225 Slant comes in around 7.5-8:1. I would go 0.060"-0.080" with a stock cam and you should have no issues.

Lou

_________________
Home of Slant6-powered fun machines since 1988


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:38 am 
Offline
Turbo Slant 6

Joined: Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:08 pm
Posts: 616
Location: Nelson, B.C.
Car Model:
Quote:
Yes, a stock 225 Slant comes in around 7.5-8:1. I would go 0.060"-0.080" with a stock cam and you should have no issues.

Lou
What kind of performance gains can be expected from this simple task?

_________________
Image


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:08 pm 
Offline
Board Sponsor & Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 21, 2002 11:08 am
Posts: 17295
Location: Blacksburg, VA
Car Model:
If you have everything working properly, I would expect a bit better mileage, and probably 4-12 HP gain (~5%).

FWIW, degreeing your cam properly and optimizing your ign advance curve will likely net you the same sort of gains, since they (cams/tchains, or adv curves) are often not right.

Lou

_________________
Home of Slant6-powered fun machines since 1988


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 10:52 am 
Offline
Supercharged
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 15, 2007 5:05 pm
Posts: 3767
Location: Black Diamond, WA
Car Model:
I just went through this same process not wanting to be crazy about HP but wanted more torque to pull the 2.76 gears and get good mileage.
Advancing the cam 4 to 6 degrees helps, milling off a .100 helped alot. I have lots more snap with only mild work done on the head.
2.25" exhaust all the way back helped allot too.

Those three things are a must for a hauler like a wagon or a truck.
THere are several other items that can help, like a distributor recurve, carb rebuild, etc. I kept it pretty basic and am very happy with the outcome.

_________________
Aggressive Ted

http://cid-32f1e50ddb40a03c.photos.live ... %20Swinger


74 Swinger, 9.5 comp 254/.435 lift cam, 904, ram air, electric fans, 2.5" HP2 & FM70 ex, 1920 Holley#56jet, 2.76 8 3/4 Sure-Grip, 26" tires, 25+MPG


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:28 am 
Offline
EFI Slant 6

Joined: Fri May 11, 2007 7:32 pm
Posts: 284
Location: Mountain View, CA
Car Model: Road Runner
I just had .100 taken off the top of my 62 block, and after asembly, my slugs are still .100 in the hole. To get a CR in the 9.0-9.5 range, I'll have to get head volumed in teh 52-55cc range.


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 7:27 pm 
Offline
TBI Slant 6

Joined: Tue Aug 29, 2006 7:13 pm
Posts: 233
Car Model:
hi, i took .060 off a 68 225 and ended up -.115 in the hole. wish i had taken off more. also took .100 off a 69 225 and ended up .070 in the hole. i also found that my new .030 pistons were .025 to .030 shorter than my stock originals from center of piston pin to top of piston. ron


Top
   
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 11 posts ] 

All times are UTC-08:00


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], Google [Bot] and 4 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited