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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:27 am 
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Hey All,

I just pulled the oil pickup off my 66 170 engine in order to swap it (along with the oil pan) on to my 79 225, which will be going back in the 66 Valiant.

The screen in the back of the pickup is shredded. This really bothers me. Seems like a piece of that screen could really chew up the oil pump. The pickup looks like it is machine crimped, ie. no way to repair the screen.

Is this correct? Does anyone have a magical fix for this prob. Or do I just need a replacement early a body pickup?

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I'd just replace it if I could get one. NAPA may list such an animal. :D

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Pickup screen-and-pipe assemblies for the '60-'66 oil pan setup are N/A. NAPA and similar sources haven't listed them for years. :-( You'll have to find a good used one or perhaps modify a late-type pickup to work with the early pan. I haven't ever tried to do that, so I don't know if it can be done. Doc?

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 Post subject: Rebuild this pickup?
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Well, why not cut the crimped rim off and take screen out (it's crimped between halves of the pickup pod), then get bottle brush and go at it to clean out the pipe then put medium size steel mesh and weld both halves together?

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Seeing that the correct pick-up is not available new, your best option is to open-up the one you have, clean it and replace the screen.
You can buy a later pick-up and open it up to get the screen.
I use a pair of wire cutters to get under the rolled-over edge, then start prying it open. It reminds me of opening a can, before all those "quick-pull" lids were invented.

Once you have the unit open, be sure to ream-out the end of the pipe. The factory used a roller type pipe cutter to part the pipe off and there is usually a big burr and reduced opening at the end of the tube.
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So once you've replaced or repaired the screen and reamed the end of the pipe...how do you put the "flying saucer" back together again?

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How much difference is there between a '63-66 pickup and the '67-76 one? Both my '66 ones are inside motors right now. :?

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So once you've replaced or repaired the screen and reamed the end of the pipe...how do you put the "flying saucer" back together again?

Thanks Doc. Good info. Wondering the same thing as Dan. Maybe I can roll it back over and then mig a few spots w/o killing the new screen?

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aren't there hose clamps that are u-shaped instead of flat ?

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How much difference is there between a '63-66 pickup and the '67-76 one? Both my '66 ones are inside motors right now. :?
The later 67 & up pick-up screen comes straight down into the sump and tends to sit to far forward in the early pan. It can get uncovered during hard accelaration. (that is a bad time to have the oil light come on)

The later pick-ups can be used as long as you spot weld in some pan baffels to hold oil around the pick-up. (I do this no matter what)
Here are some of the SL6 pick-up tubes, each oil pan has it's own:
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So once you've replaced or repaired the screen and reamed the end of the pipe...how do you put the "flying saucer" back together again?
As the FSM would say: "reverse the sequence of operations"!

Kidding aside...
Notice how I leave alone the section near the opening, this serves as a reference for re-assembly.

Bending the lip down again is done with regular pair of plyers, using a bit of a "rolling action" as you clamp down on the standing sheet metal edge.
A small hammer and a hard-flat table edge for support, helps flatten-out and bumps & rumples left behing from the plyer work.
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What's that "one of these things is not like the others, one of these things does not quite belong" unit in the lower left of your photo? What's that from?

Thanks for the reassembly info.

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...one of these things does not quite belong" unit in the lower left of your photo? What's that from?
That is an after market Moroso pick-up tube.
It's good "raw material" if you want to cut & weld-up a custom p-up tube.
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Well, it isn't pretty. But it is functional

Thanks again Doc.

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