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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 2:24 pm 
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Just thought I'd throw this out there (probably common knowledge to the vets). While online the other day I was at a site, forgot which one- allpar maybe? I was reading an interview with an engineer who worked on SL6 valve trains of the 60's era. He mentioned that a quick way to tell the difference between the 170 & 225 is that the hose connecting the water pump to the head is about a 1/2" for the 170 as opposed to about 2-3" for the 225. Anyway thought this might be useful.


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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 3:31 pm 
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so your tellin me that lil PITA hose is even shorter for a 170? eww

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 Post subject: Way old news...
PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 4:24 pm 
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He mentioned that a quick way to tell the difference between the 170 & 225 is that the hose connecting the water pump to the head is about a 1/2" for the 170 as opposed to about 2-3" for the 225. Anyway thought this might be useful.
We already knew that (plus we have more info on our little mill than allpar... which occassionally seems to have a not so new nugget of joy when it comes to info...) in fact I was junkyarding the other day and saw a 170 and the hose clamps almost touch each other....


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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 5:47 pm 
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That hose is sure a little bugger! :lol:


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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 7:39 pm 
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wow i couldnt even iagine the smaller size, i already curse that hose anytime is messed wit... head, waterpump, wutever.
if that hose busted would u have to pull the waterpump to get it off

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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 8:06 pm 
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Heres the interview. Pretty good reading.

:arrow: http://www.allpar.com/corporate/bios/ha ... rview.html


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 Post subject: 170 junkyard motor
PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 10:21 pm 
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IIRC, Joshie225 is looking for a (uncut) later 170 crank,the one with the large flywheel hub.If that 170 is still in that yard someone might do a busy Mopar bro a favor and get that crank before it's sent to China.I'd do it if I weren't so dang broke :cry:

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 Post subject: Too small...
PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 7:58 am 
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later 170 crank,the one with the large flywheel hub
It's a 1964 170... so josh wouldn't have a match there...

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It doesn't have to be large hub, but it would be nice. I wonder what the yard would want for it and if I should make the trip down?

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 Post subject: Josh's 170 project
PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 4:57 pm 
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Don't forget that Ed Yost @ Wildcat has an adaptor ring for those early flywheel hub(s),don't know what it costs. Wildcat ph#503-668-7786 just remember they close Sunday AND Monday;Tuesday IIRC they are there but don't answer the phone(s) but that may have changed.One could leave a message and/or e-mail.

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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 5:13 pm 
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Yeah, but that adapter ring is to put an early transmission behind a later engine. It doesn't do a thing to fit a big hole flywheel to an early crank.

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 Post subject: adaptor snafu
PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 11:59 pm 
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Huh?..wha?..fuh :shock: Dohw! :shock:
Got my inner;outer;older@newer adaptarater idea-erater ta git-er-runner-ater-in-ism all bass-ackward ated.
Howzzat layout sitchy-ated, again;any knoweldgable e-guruz Not having a "Randy moment? :roll: Warren@PDX.com

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