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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:18 pm 
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i havent had luck at my local pick-ur-part and now im getting antsy about installing my 2bbl set up.

know where i can get one? and it'd be great if you could direct me. (i dont know much) I was on kragen's website but they have some that are described for v8's. will those work?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:31 pm 
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Get one of the #1232 Electric choke kits instead.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:03 pm 
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It ain't any kind of new, but I think I may have a spare that you can have for the postage. PM me.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:08 am 
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Let me know if you want it. There's another member interested if you don't.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:30 pm 
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Just saw this one in an ebag store - 370003700633.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:35 pm 
You can also install a manual choke, you can get the cable for it at almost any autoparts store.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 6:01 pm 
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does anyone have a pic of the 1232 Rymal electric choke installed?
I'm tyring to explain what i want to Randy Rymal and he seems to be kind of flaky. Ordered a 1232 for a super six set up. Told him it was for a slant six engine with a BBD carter carb. He wrote back "whats a BBD?"
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He asked for a picture.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 6:37 pm 
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Just tell him you need a choke thermostat for a 1978 Dodge Aspen with six-cylinder 225 engine and 2-barrel carburetor...or a #1232, without getting into details like "BBD". There are pictures of the #1232 in the thread about the Electric choke kits.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 5:42 pm 
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I ordered the 1232 as Dan suggested. Rymal sent me the wrong one again. it was oriented the wrong way. Push rod should move towards the front of the car. He sent me a mounting that had the push rod moving laterally twds the drivers side (back of the carb). This time instead of returning it to him I decided to make it work

I have cut the mountng and re-fabricated it so the push rod is now oriented correctly toward the front of the enigine where it can be connected to the carb. Here is my confusion

I do not know how a choke actually works. Should the spring tension be pushing the butterfly valve shut? so when you start the car, the engine heats up, and then the spring in the choke relaxes allowing the butterfly valve to open up? or is it visa versa.

I can not figure out how much tension to place on the push rod.
Does this make sense? If anyone can explain how the choke mechanism works, perhaps I can figure this out.

Does the engine heating up relax the spring in the choke. Or does it tighten the spring in the choke? How much tension needs to be on the push rod when it is connected to the carb??

thanks so much.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 5:55 pm 
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Uhhh...yikes.

Seems like a lot more work to try and hack something to work in a manner it was not intended to work, than to persist until you get what you actually need. Does the unit he sent look like the one in the pictures I linked? If not, you got the wrong one and you should get the right one.

On the other hand, if what you were sent does look like the one in the picture I linked, then you have cut up your choke thermostat for no good reason. :shock:

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Dan He sent the wrong one. AGAIN. I sent pictures. I was quite specific.
TWO bolts holes. 78 aspen six cylinder. Push rod needs to move towards the front of the vehicle. He sent me one bolt hole and a tab. when you lined them up the push rod moved laterally. I think he's on crack.

If you look at yours, he welded the choke mechanism to the mounting at a triangular part of the medal. I broke the weld. Bent the triangle. then bolted the two peieces back together. now the Black plastic choke mechanism and the push rod are oriented correctly.

I just need to know how much tension to have in the push rod when i attach it to the carb.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 6:27 pm 
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shouldnt be this hard. I ordered a choke that is to be bolted on theexhst manifold. The push rod has to run twrds the front of the car. Thats because the choke pulloff on the Carter BBD is oriented that way.
The push rod should be the right length. i shouldnt have to be cutting metal and re welding. But i have. I'm not going back to Rymal. He's a neencompoop. "whats BBD?" "I've been gone judging wooden hull boat competitions" :x

If this gets too complicated, Im going with a manual choke cable. I want to stay true to the slant. But at this point its getting frustrating. I should just sell my Dart and use the money for a crate engine and have that put in the Charger. AHHHHH

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Dan He sent the wrong one. AGAIN. I sent pictures. I was quite specific.
TWO bolts holes. 78 aspen six cylinder. Push rod needs to move towards the front of the vehicle. He sent me one bolt hole and a tab.
But...one bolt hole and one tab is correct — as you can see in the linked photo. The original-equipment 2bbl choke had one bolt hole and one tab, too.
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when you lined them up the push rod moved laterally.
Yup, that's correct. It looks wrong until everything's all bolted in and connected, but in fact it's correct. The key to understanding it is in looking at the choke pushrod, which has a 90° twist in it to interface with the 2bbl choke lever despite the choke thermostat looking like it's rotated 90 degrees away from where it should be. It's an optical illusion.
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I think he's on crack.
I think you jumped the gun and didn't try installing the choke before guessing it was wrong and cutting it up. :-(
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I broke the weld. Bent the triangle. then bolted the two peieces back together. now the Black plastic choke mechanism and the push rod are oriented correctly.
I kind of doubt it; I think you've spoiled the choke you bought because you didn't clearly understand how it was supposed to work.
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I just need to know how much tension to have in the push rod when i attach it to the carb.
This can't be quantified. The answer is "enough". Spring tension pushes the choke closed; heat relaxes the tension.
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shouldnt be this hard.
I agree, but I think you are causing some or all of your own difficulty.

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"Yup, that's correct. It looks wrong until everything's all bolted in and connected, but in fact it's correct. The key to understanding it is in looking at the choke pushrod, which has a 90° twist in it to interface with the 2bbl choke lever despite the choke thermostat looking like it's rotated 90 degrees away from where it should be. It's an optical illusion."

Dan I sure dont claim to come close to your knowledge when it comes to engines. I always defer to your judgement. But I am mechanical enough to know when a push rod will not connect to the carb. There's nothing optical about it. I bolted it in and it was a complete 90 degerees off. He sent the wrong one. AGAIN.

Now is there a way to make this work, or am I out of pocket?

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Tough to say without seeing exactly what he sent you.

Did you send him (or send him to) the pics I linked?

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