would my car, 1978 plymouth volare super six, no pollution control stuff left whatsoever, gutted catylitic converter, glasspack, no more air conditioning, otherwise stock possibly stand a chance against a 2004 mustang base model V6 completely stock?

The Mustang is a much faster car. The only chance you have is if the Mustang has a mechanical or electrical failure that keeps it from running.

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Joshua

No way. Expect that Mustang to run mid 15s (or faster) in the quarter. Volare=18s at best.

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1963 Dodge Dart -225 Slant 6, 904, 2.76's, 18.84 @ 73
1970 Nova 12.53@108
1970 Bug 15.38@87

The mustang benefits from modern technology, efi/OD tranny...
For you to keep pace with it, you will need more cam, bigger carb, better rear end ratio....etc...
Stock for stock, right off the lot...the volare isn't ready to drag against that one unless it's a bracket race....

FYI,

-D.Idiot

There is nothing more fun than being in an old car and running down the 1/4 mile quicker than a car built in the 2000's.

Just thought I'd share this with guys.
Earlier this year I went to the track with a good friend of mine. Me in my 62 Valiant, him in his 2004 3.8L V6 GMH Commodore "Sports Pack" which has 204hp. Looks like this.

Anyway, for weeks before this he was telling me how quick his car was and how it was so much faster than my old Valiant.
On the night, my old Valiant 15.6sec and his new GMH..............16.7sec. I still smile when I think of the look on his face.

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62 Valiant, 225cid Slant 6/PB 904 with lots of good bits

http://www.moparmarket.com/readersrides ... user=SV162

Would I get any more seat of the pants power out of a 2.93 rear end ratio compared to a 2.76? My car's downside is just from a stop get up and go, one time when the kid with the V6 mustang and I were both going about 25 mph on the way home from school and then we both punched it and we were about dead even. I'm just sort of sick of other kids making fun of my "old" car. haha, my come back is always, "I'll bet you my car will outlast yours by 20 years..." and then my friend always backs me up with, "In fact, it already has..." haha

See if you can find a 3.21/3.23 geared rear end from an F-body that originally came with the 4-speed overdrive manual transmission and your car will come off the line more quickly. The 2.93 is a step in the right direction, but probably not enough to get you the acceleration you desire.

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Joshua

With some money, ambition, and the collective knowledge of this forum, your revenge is closer than you think.

Now, how to outrun that GT-R, hmmmm......

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'63 Valiant V200 Convertible
225 Aluminum Block

3.23 is a good compromise between acceleration and highway cruising (i.e. still comfortable at 75mph)

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Richard (aka Fingers)

I like wayne's turbo article.. With a junkyard turbo swap he was in the 16's on a stock six... thats pretty hairy if you think about the potential.

I hope you would want to race him at a drag strip if so i have a couple tips. The street is not the place to race, a race track is. Thanks Ron Parker










It Aint Over Until I Win

As the current owner of the turbo setup from that article, I don't.

By the time I got the setup, the manifold had almost cracked in two where the K-car flange was welded onto the stock manifold, and the turbo was way too small.

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"Mad Scientist" Matt Cramer
'66 Dart - turbocharged 225
My blog - Mad Scientist Matt's Lair