Slant *        6        Forum
Home Home Home
The Place to Go for Slant Six Info!
Click here to help support the Slant Six Forum!
It is currently Thu Nov 12, 2026 2:55 pm

All times are UTC-08:00




Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 15 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2003 7:58 pm 
Offline
Board Sponsor & Contributor
User avatar

Joined: Sun Oct 20, 2002 5:30 pm
Posts: 254
Location: Carlisle, MA
Car Model:
It must be the season for turbos. I finally got the bugs worked out of my EFI turbo this weekend. I'm running 10 lbs of boost at full throttle and this thing rips! The turbo is out of an '85 Buick and is rebuilt. The entire set-up is 99% salvage yard parts. Check out some pictures at http://www.hometown.aol.com/bbobbias/page1.html


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2003 8:38 pm 
Offline
Board Sponsor
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 23, 2002 8:48 pm
Posts: 366
Location: Southeastern PA
Car Model:
Excellent! Are you going to write an article about your set-up?

What does it sound like?



Pat


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2003 7:06 am 
Offline
Board Sponsor & Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 21, 2002 11:08 am
Posts: 17676
Location: Blacksburg, VA
Car Model:
I like it! Success is so sweet. I'm awaiting the article... Any plans to get performance numbers for this snorter?

Lou

_________________
Home of Slant6-powered fun machines since 1988


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2003 7:59 pm 
Offline
Board Sponsor & Contributor
User avatar

Joined: Sun Oct 20, 2002 5:30 pm
Posts: 254
Location: Carlisle, MA
Car Model:
Pat,
The engine sounds like it has an open air cleaner with a little more whine. I still have a turbo muffler in the exhaust so that sounds pretty much the same as it did before. I'll probably do an article next winter after I've had at least a summer of running with the turbo.

Lou,
I've never done any racing. I just never had the opportunity or found the time. I don't personally know anyone who races either which doesn't help. I do have one of those G-tech performance meters but have found that it is surprisingly difficult to find a place to use it around here. About the only place to try it here is on the interstate, and even then you need at least 1/4 mile of highway that is perfectly flat and straight. I've also had a lot of difficulty getting repeatable results in the past. I'll probably give it another try sometime this summer.
Bob D


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2003 10:07 pm 
Offline
Guru
User avatar

Joined: Sat Oct 12, 2002 11:22 am
Posts: 3740
Location: Sonoma, Calif.
Car Model: Many Darts and a Dacuda
Is it Englishtown that has the dragstrip near you??
You just got to drive-out to your local dragstrip and say:
"I have never drag raced before but I want to see what my Slant Six B'cuda will run, what do I do??"

Keep playing dumb and ask everyone "how do I do this" questions, then pull up to the starting line and let her rip!
The looks on everyones face will be worth the price of admission! :twisted:

Read this article before you go out and take a friend or two whom can shot some pics for us.
DD
http://www.slantsix.org/articles/bracke ... t_race.htm


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2003 11:29 pm 
Offline
Board Sponsor
User avatar

Joined: Sat Nov 02, 2002 7:52 pm
Posts: 1506
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Car Model: 1964 Valiant
Hmmm... 99 percent salvage parts. Sounds like I want to know more.

I also have never raced before either, but I've always had cars which were proven to be dead slugs. It would be a good experience to determine the durability of your turbo EFI combination. I believe driving the turbo car daily is a pretty good test, I'd be worried about the hot summers we have here. I just got a '65 2-door post car, it's light, it might be a good turbo test car if I can get some funds for working with the 99-percent salvage parts that you used.


Top
   
PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2003 6:00 am 
Offline
Turbo Slant 6
User avatar

Joined: Tue May 06, 2003 5:53 am
Posts: 750
Location: Crestline, CA
Car Model:
Hi,

Wow, I really hope that you write down your notes for this project. I would like to try a similar car. What turbo did you use? What ignition? Are you getting any detonation with 10 pounds of boost? What mass air meter are you using? This is so cool, I ruined a pair of fruit of the looms!!


Thanks,

Greg


Top
   
 Post subject: wo
PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2003 6:30 pm 
Offline
TBI Slant 6
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 03, 2003 3:44 pm
Posts: 234
Location: Orlando, FL
Car Model:
easy there buddy.... :shock:


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2003 7:27 pm 
Offline
Board Sponsor & Contributor
User avatar

Joined: Sun Oct 20, 2002 5:30 pm
Posts: 254
Location: Carlisle, MA
Car Model:
Doug, Do you think that I can go to the track just once and not get addicted? :roll: I'll get like some of you guys and start looking for every tenth. :wink:

Tim, Ya, I am a bit worried about my hood paint. I'm using a heat shield from an '87 GN on the turbo and adhesive backed aluminized heat barrier under the hood. It still gets pretty hot to the touch though. I guess only time will tell.

Greg, I'm using a turbo and MAF from an '85 Buick Regal. I got mine at a salvage yard along with the injectors from the same car. These parts may be difficult for you to find in a salvage yard but you can get them at salvage yard prices at www.turbobuick.com. In fact I just bought a spare MAF for $25 + $5 shipping on that site. Do a search on the "parts for sale forum" on that site to check out how much the parts usually sell for. For example type in "stock and fuel and injectors".
Basically everything is the same as described in my EFI article that is posted on this site except the MAF and injectors. I'm even still using the same ECM although I may eventually use a later one. I'm also now using the GM ignition along with the ESC and knock detector that is also described in the article, but that I didn't actually used until I installed the turbo. The knock detector and ESC are taking care of detonation (I hope!) but I think I'll turn down the boost to 6 or 7 lbs just to be safe until I get a MSD BTM (obviously not a salvage yard part).
The fuel pump in my article was new but Roger (GTS225) has found one out of (I think) a Ford truck that should work. Also, Doug has an article started on this site that describes how to fab your own EFI manifold.
Bob D


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2003 1:06 pm 
Ok, you have convienced me to do a a EFI conversion on the 63 and learn some new tricks in the process.


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2003 9:28 am 
Offline
SL6 Racer & Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Wed Nov 06, 2002 5:58 am
Posts: 429
Location: Casa Grande, AZ
Car Model:
Hey, that install looks sweet.....step-by-step info please, for us turbo-illiterates...:)

_________________
It's a Slant thing. Even I don't understand.

1974 Duster, EFI /6 soon to be turbo...

Get that Monkay! Get that nasty thing!!
Image


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2003 8:12 pm 
Offline
Board Sponsor & Contributor
User avatar

Joined: Sun Oct 20, 2002 5:30 pm
Posts: 254
Location: Carlisle, MA
Car Model:
Step 1 - Complete EFI conversion (use the knock detector and ESC as discribed in article). http://www.slantsix.org/articles/dibias ... ersion.htm

Step 2 - Get a turbo with intake adaptor, MAF, injectors and throttle body from an '84-'85 turbo Buick. TB is optional if you have a TB from the previous conversion. (salvage yard or www.turbobuick.com parts for sale forum)

Step 3 - Fab a simple aluminum plate to adapt turbo adaptor to SL6 manifold. Re-clock turbo to locate exhaust as desired and fab some support brackets.

Step 4 - Re-locate TB to turbo intake. This requires fab of an adapter plate, or use '84-'85 turbo TB with no fab required.

Step 5 - Fab "up" and "down" exhaust pipes and oil feed and return lines.

Step 6 - Fab duct work for air cleaner, MAF and TB.

Step 7 - Nice options are a knock gage ( www.casperselectronics.com ) and a MSD BTM ( www.summitracing.com ).

Step 8 - Zoom-zoom!

Of course this outline is simplified, but that is basically it.
Bob D


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2003 11:04 pm 
Offline
Guru
User avatar

Joined: Sat Oct 12, 2002 11:22 am
Posts: 3740
Location: Sonoma, Calif.
Car Model: Many Darts and a Dacuda
There you have it, just as easy as 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 ! :wink:
(it is all that "Fab" stuff that takes the time. :( )
DD


Top
   
 Post subject: Pics along the way
PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2003 9:27 am 
Offline
TBI Slant 6

Joined: Fri Nov 22, 2002 8:50 am
Posts: 109
Location: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Car Model:
Hey Bob. By any chance did you take pics along the way as you built up you successful project?


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2003 6:12 pm 
Of course Doug is right. As they say "the devil is in the details". Actually, the most time was involved with the planning, the inevitable mistakes and then the change of plans. However, I will say that the for the turbo installation I only used an electric drill, Dremel tool, table saw with a metal cutting blade and a Bernz-o-matic Mapp welding kit along with basic hand tools. And, I'm a real novice when it comes to welding. But at least with this set-up there was no need to modify the exhaust manifold.
I don't want to give the impression that this project is a done deal yet. I still have some things to optimize. Also, this project took the better part of the winter. But quite frankly I am slow and I also put a big premium on appearance. Don't plan on doing it in a weekend on your daily driver! :shock:
I did take some pictures for a possible future article.
Bob D


Top
   
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 15 posts ] 

All times are UTC-08:00


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited