I have the A833 OD back into my '65 Valiant and running again. But there's a difference in how it shifts from what it was before I worked (minimally) on it. The synchronizer rings "spiral" didn't look worn so I left them in. I installed new bearings (front, rear and counter shaft) and a new tail cone bushing. While the rear bearing was really noisy, all gears looked almost new. I don't quite get why what I did should change anything about shifting unless the EXACT microscopic position of the shifter mounting would make a difference. I had it off to facilitate working on everything.

Before, all gears went in smoothly. Now 3 and 4 go in buttery, but 1 and 2 feel something like a fairly stiff detent to get past before either goes in and then it sort of "snaps" into gear. (Also it's considerably harder to get over into the reverse "neutral" area and back out.)

What should I be looking to do?

Rk

If it is the linkage/shifter...the process is to jack the car up and stick the shifter into neutral then use a 1/4" diameter punch or a 16 penny nail does the trick sometimes... and there is a little round notch at the bottom of the hurst shift mechanism...install tool and look to see if all the shift rods are adjusted fairly well and not sloppy, pull clips and swivel the ends to adjust some of the play out of it. Also, what oil/ATF are you using sometimes oil can be a bit stiff. I know these trannies have a certain 'love/hate' relationship, my Dad's Feather Duster had about 136,000 miles on it and he took it in to the Dealership to have them freshen things up as the A-833OD tranny was feeling a bit sloppy... they did what you did, replace bearings and seals... after that shifting the car from 1st-2nd, and downshift to 1st you needed to be a muscle bound dude...it was just like rowing through set jello, with the "skronk" sound once you got it to engage... it got better after putting some miles on it, but the dealership just shrugged it off saying the tolerances are tight and it needs to wear in...I don't buy that...

Hopefully it's just an adjustment in this case.

-D.Idiot

I'll try the adjustment. Why would it change?

As for oil, to avoid a controversy I'll just say I put the same oil back in as was in it before. Anyway, as long as 3/4 shifts nicely, why would oil make a difference on 1/2?

RK

I would expect the oil to affect all gear changes, not just one. Did you replace the synchro springs? Maybe mix them up? Leave one out? Go ahead and adjust everything to spec. No gear clash, right?

-James

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Hm, what are the synchro springs? Those little flat dudes that are almost impossible to even install? In between the synchro rings? Or those big rings inside the synchro rings?

I took a little run at adjustment, but ran out of time. The reverse was way off and that works better now. I don't understand why the big change. It was fine before.

I can force gear clash, but not without some pretty hurried hand work.

Thanks

RK

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this seems to be a goo place to post this bit...

I have put in an 833 I have never used one but the shift pattern seems to be a bit odd...1 and 2 is right but 3 and four seen to be back ward...3rd is to the right and down and 4th is to the right and up...is this the way of things or did i get the link on trans up side down...

I like it so i think I'll leave it..just throwing it out there...

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Its so nice out side, I think I'll go lay under my car..

Sounds like you have the 3-4 lever on the trans upside down. If the lever points up like the 1-2 lever you have an A833OD (overdrive) transmission. You might read over the 4-speed article just for your edification. http://www.slantsix.org/articles/4-spee ... speed1.htm

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Joshua

I did a double take and a double check when I read that. My OD and the overdrive manual show the A833 OD with the 3-4 lever down and the 1-2 lever up. Maybe you meant to say if they are both up you _don't_ have an OD? (Or else they were installed wrong?)

His shift pattern is wrong. The 1-2 lever always points up. If the 3-4 lever also points up AND the shift pattern is wrong he has an OD trans and needs the 3-4 lever to point down to correct the shift pattern. I see I didn't state this thoroughly the first time.

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