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Charrlie_S
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Pieced together a premium set (double-roller) at rock auto for a 64 Dodge W300

Crank: (25 teeth)
Cloyes S339 $21.79

Cam: (50 teeth)
Cloyes S338 $49.79

Chain: (66 double links 3/8" pitch)
Cloyes C168 $14.05


Total $85.63
Less 5% $4.28

Parts cost $81.35

Shipping varies, but $11.18 for me to CA. So this may be highest expected.

Grand Total $92.53

(didn't buy, just priced it out)
Those are the pieces, I'm trying to get in a "set", at a better price point then the individual pieces.

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I'm in for 1 or more, depending on part quality and price...

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Pieced together a premium set (double-roller) at rock auto for a 64 Dodge W300

Crank: (25 teeth)
Cloyes S339 $21.79

Cam: (50 teeth)
Cloyes S338 $49.79

Chain: (66 double links 3/8" pitch)
Cloyes C168 $14.05


Total $85.63
Less 5% $4.28

Parts cost $81.35

Shipping varies, but $11.18 for me to CA. So this may be highest expected.

Grand Total $92.53

(didn't buy, just priced it out)
Those are the pieces, I'm trying to get in a "set", at a better price point then the individual pieces.
Dang, those are good prices. NAPA wants 80+ just for the cam gear and about 70% more for each of the other gears.

Do you really think you can get a deal to beat RA's prices?

The chain and the bottom gear are relatively common items, it's the top gear that's spendy. Perhaps just getting a deal on the top gear would suffice? The chain fits an array of motors, including some GM products.
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You either need a 'set' or all the 'pieces' from 1 vendor to consolidate shipping/handling costs.

Any savings would be wiped out if you have to buy from 2 different vendors.

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I would also be interested. Thanks Charrlie!

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Put me down for one set
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Do the double roller steel gears ever wear out?

I know the chains do, as i've had new against old; and the old ones are noticably longer.

But I've never noticed any difference in the gears new vs old other than seeing that it was used.

I've just changed the gears as a matter of course.


What would you measure on the gear to see if it has worn?



And with the gear sets that are smaller centerline cam to centerline crank, is the chain slightly shorter, gears slightly larger, both?



I'm thinking that you might get away with just chain replacements after you have a double roller kit............ (maybe slightly shorter chains can compensate for any gear wear)

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i will be interested if crank is multi keyway.
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i will be interested if crank is multi keyway.
Cloyes crank sprocket only has 1 keyway

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i will be interested if crank is multi keyway.
Only one keyway.
I find it is easier to change cam timing with a offset bushing in the cam gear, rather then removing and reinstalling the crank gear.

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Put me down for one set.

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OK, Mike at Cloyes just got back to me. I need a minimun order of twenty sets, and the price will be $73.00 per set. This is a copy of his E-Mail:
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Due to your special circumstance, we can assist you with this situation.



The part number you need is CS225MS.

For 20 units Hand Matched to OEM centerline dimension with a price of $73.00 per set.

Your cost is $1,460.00,

Freight will be at no charge to assist you in your new venture.



If you wish to pursue this purchase, please reply with the following information –

Ø Correct Name and Shipping Address (both must be same on credit card used)

Ø Preferred Shipping Method (will go Standard UPS Ground unless requested different)

Ø Phone number where you can be reached during business hours



Once we receive your reply, our customer service department will key the order and calculate freight costs. We will then call you to get your credit card info. We accept VISA or M/C only.





Mike Senia

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I have to place the order, and recieve the shipment, then reship to the end user, so there will be shipping charges from me to you.
As noted these will be hand selected, unlike buying indivdual pieces.
Any one that wants these, please let me know in this thread. Please be sure if you commit, as I have to up front the money. How about a order cutoff date of 1-16-2011. It will take at least 1 to 1 1/2 weeks after that for the order to be filled, and recieved by me. Then the shipping time to you.

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Charlie,

I'm in for 1 set for sure at this point, and I am considering getting a 2nd.

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I'm thinkin' the same as Lou. One fer sure - maybe two. Have ta talk to the boss.

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