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 Post subject: Carb problem
PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:42 am 
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I have 1BBL carb intake manifold in my Duster SL6 .... can i install Holley 1bbl 1064 carb or stromburg 1bbl ....

only these two 1 bbl carb are available in Karachi....

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 Post subject: Carb problem
PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:53 am 
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I am searchin artical convert 1bbl manifold to 2bbl manifold i didnot get find it.... any one can....!!!!! :roll: :roll: :roll: :shock:

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:57 am 
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Most 1-bbls have the same bolt pattern, so making them bolt on is easy. The problem is, are you trying to keep all of the stock emission, crank case charcoal canister, vapor fuel tank and bowl vents? What is the problem with the carb you have on there now?


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 2:09 pm 
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Here is this article on the Super Six.
http://www.slantsix.org/articles/supersix/article.htm

Maybe this is what your looking for,
http://u225.torque.net/cars/SL6/article ... l_2bbl.pdf



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 Post subject: Re: Carb problem
PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 2:31 pm 
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I have 1BBL carb intake manifold in my Duster SL6 .... can i install Holley 1bbl 1064 carb or stromburg 1bbl ....
There are many different 1bbl carburetors, with different mounts and different linkages. "1064" isn't a known model of Holley carburetor. If you will show us pictures of the carburetors you have available to you locally, it will be easier for us to help you choose. Another option is to buy a carburetor from America, but it would be expensive to ship.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 4:28 pm 
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"terry"

No i do not have plan to keep stock. yes i want average milage per gallon plus my car should go fast. i am draving this car only on sudays.

"xjarhead"

Thanks for the artical ...
"Dan"
today whole day i pass in the KArachi femous junk yard "shearSha" i found only two one berral carb which are

Holley 1064 62602
and strombearg 43503942 Pics are not good quality i will load it soon trying to get photobucket acount working.

"Dan" my car come with 4y two berral carb mounted extreamly extremly badly on 1 bbl port car was not going mor then 40 kmph.

"Dan" should i conver my 1 bbl to two bbl parral to engine with base plate ... i think you guys says not worthy.

i have SL6 225CID engine i think i need 290 CFM carb can you tell me model no of 1bbl which is 290 CFM and fix with Auto gear Duster. or suggest me what should i do.. importing from Amrica is dificult for me.

kindly guide me.


Thanks to all of you.
Duster from KArachi Pakistan

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:53 pm 
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very sad :( :( :( no responce from any one... guys i am going to buy carb tomorrow can suggest me good 1bbl carb.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:32 pm 
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No response because waiting to see your photos.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:42 pm 
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The correct carb would be a Holley 1945. Problem is, we don't know what, if anything, has been modified.

I'm sure you could find someone that can ship you a carburetor. Probably the closest markets that had these cars would be in western europe. Not sure about Spain for that era car.
Next up would be Australia or South Africa.

Shipping one from the states or Canada is always a possibility. Since I don't run 1bbl carbs, I can't help.
If you can get some photos up of your linkages and so forth, maybe Dan can help you out. He's been known to come up with some NOS gems from time to time!

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:57 pm 
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Thanks CJ.

here are some pics

This carb i got it with car as mention badly installed on 1bbl

http://www.flickr.com/photos/20954205@N ... hotostream

another shot
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This is my engine bay
http://www.flickr.com/photos/20954205@N ... otostream/

Some more pic i will load today

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:25 pm 
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I see some more issues that will need to be resolved to make the car run right as well.

In reading here, you may have seen mention of a kickdown linkage. I don't see a mechanical kickdown linkage from the carburetor to the lever on the transmission. Is there a linkage?

The fuel pump on the fender is likely responsible for much of your driveability problems. You need to install a mechanical fuel pump if possible. To successfully run an electric fuel pump, the pump needs to be mounted closer to the fuel tank, and as low as possible. Preferably beneath the tank, but so as not to have ground clearance problems.

Check Rockauto.com out for a mechanical pump. I don't know what shipping will be, but I don't believe you're going to have good fuel delivery with the setup you have there.

I don't know what the carburetor you have there is designed to work with. It may or may not be adequate to the 3.7 L engine.

If you're looking to go back to an original carburetor, I believe that your car should have the Holley 1945 1bbl.

You may also be able to run certain Holley 1920 models, or even the Carter BBS from specific models.

Depending on what other types of modifications you want to do, and what your local suppliers can support, there are a myriad of other options. For higher output, 2bbl intakes, specific carburetors, camshafts, and other performance parts are out there. Some of the options are easier to support than others. Finding good quality parts can be a hassle for some of them, even here where these cars are relatively plentiful.

You must run a kickdown linkage to the transmission. I believe you said it had a three speed automatic. That would be an A904 in nearly every case. The throttle valve on the transmission needs to be mechanically coupled to the carburetor's throttle lever. These transmissions do not use vacuum signal to shift up or down.

Options are:

1. A correct kickdown linkage and throttle valve lever at the transmission.
2. A cable kickdown, such as a Lokar cable.
3. Wire the throttle valve on the transmission open to maintain adequate line pressure to engage the clutch packs. (This is generally not preferred for a car that drives on the road as shift comfort is compromised.)

Have you got a Factory Service Manual?
This is a mandatory part of your tool kit, especially where little support or local knowledge of this type of car are concerned.
You can obtain an FSM from a variety of locations if you don't have one. I like having them on disk.

Hope that helps. :D

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:16 pm 
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2bbl 4y carb came with car

http://www.flickr.com/photos/20954205@N ... otostream/

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:08 pm 
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Thanks CJ for the detail answer .

Fuel pump.... Currently looks fuel pump dose not have any issue i am getting correct amount of fuel in the carb.

Kick down linkage... " yes it is 3 speed automatic trans" yes there is a link next to accelerator wire in the carb i will post the pic... but my car start moving even it is in the "P" is this because of Kickdown linkage... Can you send me some pics?

What is the CFM rating of Holley 1945 ? will my car go fast enough like 120 KM/hr with this?

FSM i need it badly...?? :cry: can some one send me link to download.



Thanks
SHK
here is my ride
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8312/7919 ... 6778_b.jpg

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:47 pm 
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Dear Dan and CJ ,

there are 5 different types of carb available in junkyard market no gurantee and no waranty of any of them.

Holley 1bbl one carb
Stromberg 1bbl one carb
Stromberg 2bbl three carb

Holley 1bbl ???
http://www.flickr.com/photos/20954205@N ... hotostream

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Stromberg 1bbl ????
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stromberg 2bbl three types
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:54 am 
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looks like you have a great job on the outside, she a bueaty. the engine bay need a clean up. like menition that fuel pump will work for you but it needs to be mounted at the rear on the frame rail close to the tank. with the carb it looks like a holley that was on the 2.2 dodges from the early 80`s, they are vac secondary 2bbls. are you using an adaptor plate or is your intake manifold 2bbl stock? with the kick down linkage, were dakota pickup trucks or full size dodge pickups from mid 90`s to early 2000 sold in your area, if so you can easly fit the kick down cable and brackets from these pickups to the trans, the bracket are the same. at the carb you need to get the throttle body and cable bracket of the same truck and mount the cable bracket to the carb stud in a position to reach the throttle arm and use the piviot from the throttle body on your carb.some welding and fabrication of the bracket will be needed. you will burn up the trans with out some sort of kick down activation cable or rod. tieing back 3/4 of it travel for now will work but it will shift at higher rpms each gear.


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