If anyone is interested, Here are some more Pictures of my setup, With Better pics.





















Of course this is on a drag only car, so cutting out headlights etc.. was not an issue for the cold air intake, but the Concepts could work in a street driven car as well.

Greg

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Great shots!

I posted a few more on the red link below my name. Even having the intake behind the grill it pulls plenty of cold air.

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Ted
What do you mean by a RV fitting?
Is this the black plastic fitting that is bolted next to your radiator in the photos ?
I know i have seen something like that before but can't quite place where i have seen it.

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I would think a smooth surface on the inside of the tubing would flow better.....................

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Ed
64 Valiant 225 / 904 / 42:1 manual steering / 9" drum brakes

BUCKET 636,

Yes. Our local RV shops and hardware stores carry the square black plastic fittings used on sewer drains for trailers and RV's. A lot of times folks forget to unhook their sewer houses and just drive off leaving the camp ground which breaks the fitting. They sell spares around here for that purpose. Cost is about $6. Pick up a short piece of hard sewer pipe to slide in the fitting. Leave about a inch and a half sticking out to slide the flexible line over. The stock MOPAR flexible hose has built in clamps on each end. Just snap the clamp over the pipe and your done! To address Ed's thought, you could use smooth hard pipe and two 45's also.

The RV fitting and sewer pipe just happen to be the perfect size for the stock MOPAR flexible hose used for air intakes on late 70's and 80's MOPAR's.

The turbulating air from the grill and hose folds helps to collect dirt and sand in the flexible hose. It is more than twice as big as needs to be for a one or two barrel carburetor. The air dam under the car helps to force a good steady flow up into the radiator and air inlet.

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Ted
Thanks for the response,good info.
I don't know why they call you Aggressive Ted.
Maybe it should be Responsive Ted or Not So Aggressive Ted ?

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It is a nickname from my racing days. I was always in the top three.
Your right! as I get older I am not as aggressive.....

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Ted,have you ever had a problem when driving in the rain ?
Ie,water getting up into the filter?

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This is awesome. When I get back up and running I will have to tinker with this a bit. Even a half mph more on my car will save me haha.

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Bucket 636,

No, the WIX paper element has never gotten wet. There is actually some incline to the hose so it would never make it up there.....even during a automated car wash......
I also run a fiber wrap on the filter, and have also experimented running with a K&N filter. Need to jet richer with the K&N though vs the paper filter. Both are good......believe it or not I have found sand particles and a few small bits of leaves in the base.

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Yes, it's too bad corrugated is the only easily/cheaply obtained tubing... at higher velocity the ridges create some nice tubulence at the outer edges of the pipe, for HVAC it's not that bad (but we are only pulling about 100 cfm through a 4" peice of aluminum fan tubing...), at higher velocity you almost have about a 1" boundary layer around the permeter and the inner 2"-2.5" are being used without interference... Which to a 1 barrel wouldn't hurt anything, but if using a 600 cfm holley and the secondaries...you might need to upsize or redesign a bit.

-D.Idiot

The ribbing makes no difference for getting cold air in,if your going for ram air smoother is better above 135mph,thats when ram air takes effect.This is what I have read and heard haveing been to Bonneville about 10 times.Guzzi Mark

If you don't want to use the stock MOPAR flexible hose, use two 45's and a short hard piece of black sewer pipe. Then you have a pretty smooth flow from the hard pipe....a very simple fix.

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Wow. This is exactly the topic I was looking for with regards to my '64 Valiant. I'm tempted to do a CAI just to squeeze a little more out of the car. I don't love the idea of trunk mounting the battery because it means I'll need an outside kill switch to run at the local track, but there are ways I can hide that. If it means improving the efficiency of my engine performance as much as it would seem it does, I think I'll give it a go. I already have the trunk kit.

Mr. Aggressive Ted, I'd love to see your build, but for some reason the link isn't working in your signature. Is it just me? I'll try again on another computer, but I'm very interested to see what you did.

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After putting the battery in the trunk, I cut a hole in the inner fender and fabbed a box in its place to hold a Cadillac air filter box, found in a junk yard car. The pickup goes down into the wheel well where it collects cooler air. The air under the hood is certainly considerably, measurably hotter than outside air. This is efi however. I am not sure i would eliminate the heated air feature in a carbureted engine in a cold climate. The minivans from the 80's had a similar box with a heated air function that operated similar to the old slant system. Does my set up offer better performance? I don't know. As they said, Caint hoit.



Greg, It is nice to see another pop rivet artist. Chuck, Ted's photo album is VERY inspirational, and informative. You will see everything is neat, and clean as a whistle.


Sam

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