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 Post subject: Dashboard removal.
PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2004 12:11 pm 
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Is there an easy way to do this? I want to get behind the dash to re-do the wiring. MS is going in soon, along with a new fuse box and many a relay. Any help would be appreciated.

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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2004 2:03 pm 
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If you are trying to remove the entire dash you need to take out the windshield on an A body. I just pulled one from a 74 Valiant to go into my 70 Valiant, thats how I know.

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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2004 2:20 pm 
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Damn. Any easy way to clear out most of the crap from under the dash? I want to be able to get to those firewall connections from the backside.

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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2004 5:31 pm 
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when you disconnect the 3 connectors from under the hood you just squeeze the clips and it just pushes into the passenger compartment.

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 Post subject: Yep...
PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2004 6:03 pm 
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70 valiant has you hooked up, some other things you can do to get behind there and make things a bit easier are:
Remove the instrumnet cluster, remove the heaterbox, and remove the glove box....

all in all they're all equally a pain.

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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2004 6:33 pm 
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Instrument cluster is dead. Busted that out of there a while ago. May rig the speedo back in there somehow. I'll try taking the glovebox out too. I just need to get some room to work in there. There really aren't that many wires in the car

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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2004 7:15 pm 
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If you need a cluster I have the one out of the 74 I can check and make sure everything works and make you a good deal.

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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2004 8:11 pm 
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I would consider pulling the windshield for a complete dash harness overhaul...

but then, Im a brave lad

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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2004 11:00 pm 
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The only gauge I need from it is speedo. The rest will be upgraded.

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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2004 8:37 am 
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You can get to 90% of the wires by taking out the dash cluster. I got rid of the wiring harness on the firewall(actually, I still have three wires to remove before it's fully gone). You might consider replacing the speedo(not the bikini kind of course :shock: ), since from what you said you're going aftermarket anyway. Also might consider sticking in a tach(since I'm guessing MS=MSD and you'll have a tach output). Also, if you have a dashpad taking it out will help to move the wiring, it helps out if you change the wiring significantly. There's a little beehive of wiring right above the cluster that I reduced the size by about half by re-routing wires, it would have been much harder to do if the dashpad would have been in. If you choose taking out the windshield be ready for a load more spending, it'll temp you to replace the windshield gasket which cost a lot, and obviousely you'll need the sealants. This wiring is so simple though I think that a complete overhaul on the wiring could be fairly easily done(you know, as far as the ease of re-wiring a car can be considered easy :wink: ). The only compromise I could imagine would be quality of connections, getting a sauter gone in some parts of the dash would be a b**ch.

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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2004 11:11 am 
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Removing the front seat is the best thing to do. It is amazing how much easier it is to work up under the dash when your not a pretzel.


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