Slant *       6       Forum
Home Home Home
The Place to Go for Slant Six Info!
Click here to help support the Slant Six Forum!
It is currently Sat Oct 25, 2025 1:25 am

Unanswered topics | Active topics


» » Tech Q & A » Transmission & Rearend

All times are UTC-07:00



Post new topic  Reply to topic  Page 1 of 1
  [ 7 posts ] 
  Print view Previous topic | Next topic 
Author Message
madmax/6
 Post subject: axel seals 62 valiant
PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2025 1:34 pm 
Offline
Turbo EFI

Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2004 11:21 pm
Posts: 1394
Location: long beach ca
Car Model:
Does anyone have a part number for the CORRECT axle seals for a 62 valiant,,,orig 7 1/4 rear end.
Top
   
Reply with quote  
Greg Ondayko
PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2025 2:13 pm 
Offline
Supercharged
User avatar

Joined: Sat Nov 27, 2004 8:03 pm
Posts: 9940
Location: IRWIN PA
Car Model:
Does Rockauto List incorrect ones?


I believe there are 2 versions of this seal. The later ones may be used with the large bolt pattern 7 1/4 on the fjm cars for example.

I bet Dan or Charrlie can help.

_________________
http://www.youtube.com/hyperpack
Image
Top
   
Reply with quote  
SlantSixDan
PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2025 7:32 pm 
Offline
Board Sponsor & Contributor

Joined: Thu Oct 31, 2002 5:39 pm
Posts: 24762
Location: North America
Car Model:
'60-'62: one size of axle bearing and seal in the 7-1/4" rear axle
'63-up: another size.

Original P/N for the '60-'62 seal is 2070 130. That crosses to National 51256. I'm finding a lot of hits on both those numbers with a web search, and with an eBay search.


I am not at all shocked if the ashes of what used to be the auto parts sector lists the '63-up parts for Valiants and Darts clear back to 1954, or just lists completely inapplicable parts for all Valiants and Darts from 1937 through 1991. :roll:

_________________
一期一会
Too many people who were born on third base actually believe they've hit a triple.

Image
Top
   
Reply with quote  
Greg Ondayko
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2025 3:54 am 
Offline
Supercharged
User avatar

Joined: Sat Nov 27, 2004 8:03 pm
Posts: 9940
Location: IRWIN PA
Car Model:
Thank you Dan.

That listed seal is not in the RockAuto Listing for the '62 Valiant.

There are 2 seals listed - one for Sure Grip and one without?

I would not have imagined that the sure-grip option would have affected the Axle seal ID or Bore Ø.

National 51256 is possibly just available as NOS - I cannont seem to find "new" versions of the seal.

But as Dan says they are out there to buy.

_________________
http://www.youtube.com/hyperpack
Image
Top
   
Reply with quote  
madmax/6
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2025 8:49 am 
Offline
Turbo EFI

Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2004 11:21 pm
Posts: 1394
Location: long beach ca
Car Model:
Thank you,,,last time I went through this I ordered what was listed as correct and got the bigger incorrect parts.Trying to not go through this again.
Top
   
Reply with quote  
SlantSixDan
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2025 10:08 am 
Offline
Board Sponsor & Contributor

Joined: Thu Oct 31, 2002 5:39 pm
Posts: 24762
Location: North America
Car Model:
Quote:
That listed seal is not in the RockAuto Listing for the '62 Valiant.
Quote:
last time I went through this I ordered what was listed as correct and got the bigger incorrect parts
I am shocked. Shocked, I am. Just try to imagine all of my considerable shock and surprise.
Quote:
]There are 2 seals listed - one for Sure Grip and one without?
…which is a neat trick, given that Sure Grip was not available on that car.
Quote:
I would not have imagined that the sure-grip option would have affected the Axle seal ID or Bore Ø
Quite correct, on cars that could actually have come with Sure-Grip, such as the '64-up A-bodies. So yeah, as I was saying about what remains of the auto parts sector.
Quote:
National 51256 is possibly just available as NOS - I cannont seem to find "new" versions of the seal.
Here y'go, nice fresh brand-new seals. The price equates to $22.14/pair in US Dollars, but that's before postage and tariffs. Still, it might be worth it to eliminate the uncertainty of whether 50-60-year-old seals will still seal. And you'd probably be able to get a number off the new ones to buy them more locally next time. On the other-other hand, you might discover that they are a fine product of some joker in a dirt-floor Guangdong basement, thus differently iffy than the old-stock seals, but equally so

_________________
一期一会
Too many people who were born on third base actually believe they've hit a triple.

Image
Top
   
Reply with quote  
Greg Ondayko
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2025 11:04 am 
Offline
Supercharged
User avatar

Joined: Sat Nov 27, 2004 8:03 pm
Posts: 9940
Location: IRWIN PA
Car Model:
Quote:
Quote:
That listed seal is not in the RockAuto Listing for the '62 Valiant.
Quote:
last time I went through this I ordered what was listed as correct and got the bigger incorrect parts
I am shocked. Shocked, I am. Just try to imagine all of my considerable shock and surprise.
Quote:
]There are 2 seals listed - one for Sure Grip and one without?
…which is a neat trick, given that Sure Grip was not available on that car.
Quote:
I would not have imagined that the sure-grip option would have affected the Axle seal ID or Bore Ø
Quite correct, on cars that could actually have come with Sure-Grip, such as the '64-up A-bodies. So yeah, as I was saying about what remains of the auto parts sector.
Quote:
National 51256 is possibly just available as NOS - I cannont seem to find "new" versions of the seal.
Here y'go, nice fresh brand-new seals. The price equates to $22.14/pair in US Dollars, but that's before postage and tariffs. Still, it might be worth it to eliminate the uncertainty of whether 50-60-year-old seals will still seal. And you'd probably be able to get a number off the new ones to buy them more locally next time. On the other-other hand, you might discover that they are a fine product of some joker in a dirt-floor Guangdong basement, thus differently iffy than the old-stock seals, but equally so

Thanks, Dan!
I suppose there is no Timken equivalent cross-reference to the national seal number.

I also was unaware that the Sure guip was not available in a 7 1/4" axle until 1964. But it does confirm my observation of one in a 1964 Dart that Dad has had rotting away in the back of the shop since 1990 or so.

Greg

_________________
http://www.youtube.com/hyperpack
Image
Top
   
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic  Reply to topic  Page 1 of 1
  [ 7 posts ] 

» » Tech Q & A » Transmission & Rearend

All times are UTC-07:00

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 2 guests

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited