oh wow i'm so glad someone else completely disregarded everything i said and told me not to do what I already said i was going to do, regardless if anyone else told me not to do it. you so totally convinced me.

the only person who could possibly sway my mind is probobly doug dutra himself, ive read all the articles on this site and found them very usefull.

i dont see why i can make my own oilpan/enclousre and use a customised neck with the stock pump/filller neck port. this is something i can worry about after i start the frame and have a running engine.

my block and head were delivered to the machine shop today, they are going to tank them and replace my crank/cam bearings and install my new valves. im not shaving anything and am keeping pretty much all the internals stock (for the record i have a 76 RGCC , with no defects)

now i need to go get some high temp engine enamel.

oh and the distributor and oil pump are more than likley to be covered by the radiator cowl.

anyone got a lifter assembly they dont need? or water pump?

oh and all i ever intend on doing with this bike is maybe driving 2 miles to work, 2 miles back, leaving my wife with the car and carseat for the baby, and perhaps taking it to a show or two, it has to function, but it dosent have to function WELL. it just needs to work period, not be a daily driver or drag racer. i just want a freaking impressive bike that i can drive down the street and back, then post a thousand pics on the internet

A water pump isn't worth the shipping, they are like $25 new at local parts stores.

lol thanks i havent even checked on crap like that,
im just going one step at a time...

allthough i can get .5-2.5 inch rolled seamless steel tubing in 12ft segments for under $50 a piece

I see how you're going with this. The more people who tell you that it can't be done, the sweeter it will be when completed.

It sounds like you have some experience and lots of heart, so I wish you luck and hope that you can actually make it work.

I see a couple of obvious obsticals that you might want to work out on paper in the early stages. Anything you could do to minimize the length of the engine as a unit seems like it would go a long way at making the bike actually ridable some day.

As has been stated, a jack-shaft might be a good plan. It could move all your secondary essentials to a more central and weight distributed location. A block off plate and 'external' water pump sounds expensive, but "practical" for width considerations... Ouch, Ouch, .... brain can't ..... stretch any...... farther..!....

I guess I'll believe it when I see it , because I can't even imagine this thing really being ridable, but what do I know, I'm not even very fast.

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block n heads still at the machine shop, now im looking for a good used engine stand, i plan on going to the salvage yard and getting pretty much everything i dont have to make the engine run.

now i need to know.. what pistons are good choices? and what would be a good cam to purchase?

way to go on pushing the edge of customizing standards. The way I see it , if I want sensible i will buy a volvo and put an apple sticker on it. sorry fellas, dune buggys, lawn mowers, trikes are all lame. You probably know all I have to add but heres my bleh bleh bleh. the final fantasy bike is based on the yamaha v-max motor, the bike is pretty lame stock (no dune buggy) but its real popular in europe to customize, i have seen some really badass one's, along with the honda cbx and kawasaki kz1300, the early eighties inline six bikes. if you are looking to have the big ram air intakes like the vmax, i read that the slant is easily set up with ram air. the external oil res sounds like a good idea maybe with a cooler. have you thought about dual radiators, like two honda magna or goldwing radiators daisy chained straddling the frame (assuming you are using a dual cradle) you could expose the distro. for a tranny you could steal a front wheel drive off a later mopar like a caravan. or a large toyota. my parents have an 87? dodge grand caravan v6 and that things tranny is as bullet proof as a gm turbomatic. or a caddy eldorodo. I hope you plan to tig and not mig weld your frame for structure. I think you may want to consider using a fuel pump. maybe just an in tank helper pump. alot of the stuff i mentioned is pretty cheap and plentiful at the junk haunts. check out european custom bike websites and gallery's You should probably get used to hearing "stupid", "crazy" and "stay away from my daughter" but people are always scared of anything they can;t understand. when i do oddball custom stuff i make up a typical situation at the parts/tool/whatever shop instead of having to explain it and listen to the "i saw a custom once that looked cool, you should do that" story. good luck and I can't wait for the pictures.

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ha HA! actually i AM TIG welding pretty much everything on the frame, well not me, i meant my WIFE is tig welding the frame! where i am an average welder.. shes the master welder of the family. ( and just to proove i didnt marry a neanderthal heres this )

i was going to get one large aluminum racing-spec radiator that stretches across the block and tack an oil cooler on in there too and i was going to customise an oil pan that slants down to fill the space betteen the two frame rails. as far as tranny, i plan on using an automotive automatic transmission with a 4000 stall torque converter.


oh and new news on the engine. turns out my block has had the cylinders bored .040 over already. and i have a 20/30 crank? something like that, im going on 30 hours no sleep so things are a bit fuzzy at this point comp cams making custom cam for hi rpms.and i need to find a price on a set of dutra duals.

One observation. If you mount the engine transversly, unless you redesigned the engine to run reverse rotation or build a reverse rotation gearbox, the drive end of the crank will be on the left. That means the enigne will be slanted to the rear. Not only would the bike be extremely wide, but it could end up being very long as well.

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66 Mustang 250 EFI
Lotus Seven Replica (Under Construction)
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I've been reading about this project on both this board and .com. I really think somebody's trying to pull my chain here. While this seems to be a really interesting project on the surface, something just keeps screaming BULLSH*T at the top of it lungs.

Oh well, what do I know? I said nitrous was a bunch of shyt too.

Please post lots of pictures as the build progresses, and good luck!

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bull? think what you like. this IS my first made-from-scratch motorcycle... so i may not know what i am doing.

and the engine does crank forward. the output is on the right.
im hooking the tranny to the WRONG end of the engine that is torque converter to main crank pulley. then the drive belt would be on the right side of the bike.

and yeah i have been posting on .ORG also the people there are very supportive in the same way the people here at .COM have been very technical and informative. i wouldnt get very far at all if it hasnt been for both of these websites, and i thank all of you for your help.

Oh, and i talked to Doug Dutra, he thinks the project will rock.

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Just for a little inspiration, I found these photos. It's a bike built around a Lincoln V-12! I don't know how ridable it is, but the looks and workmanship are amazing! I hope you continue to pursue it and build something extraordinary!

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66 Mustang 250 EFI
Lotus Seven Replica (Under Construction)
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Google got me here,, thought I would have a read,, any ways, did this bike ever get up of the ground,,

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Usually when I think of motorcycle engines, and especially ones with 4 or more cylinders I'm picturing high rpm low torque motors that develop peak hp above 6000rpm. Your motor will rev more like a stock harley- the power comes in not from winding out the motor, but from shifting to a higher gear and getting all that torque back. A cam, intake, headers, and ignition coupled with compression, valves, and 2 carbs will get you some revvy horses, but the slant is still a long stroke torque motor kinda like a harley.

So generally a basic slant is around 100hp and 200ft/lbs. I would suggest a 4speed harley transmission with a tall final ratio- like 24/46 tooth trans/rear wheel sprockets. It's a strong box and you can find a good one for around $800. Mounting is easy to figure out and it can be braced to the motor with a plate from the bell area. All said and done the bike should weigh in around 8-900lbs I'm guessing? You're going to want a good aftermarket clutch like primo-rivera's pro-clutch or similar to hold the torque.

This kind of setup indicates a wide rear tire, possibly a car tire aired out some to let it turn easier. You almost need a wide tire to space the sprocket out properly unless you use a jackshaft. Most drag bikes use a jackshaft to space out the chain for a wider tire- in your case it would have to come inboard for a narrower tire assuming you center the motor. Jackshafts lose a staggering amount of power, but it can be a necessary evil and can also be used to further massage the final drive ratio without exotic huge or tiny sprockets.

If the primary drive is run off the back of the flywheel/crank on the left side of the bike it will be spinning in the proper direction already but the intake/exh will be facing foreward. This would be an ideal location for ram-air carbs and traditional inline 4 bike style exhaust pipe routing.

I would caution you about the skid pads- a 'low side' wipeout is no fun. I'm guessing you won't be throwing her into the corners like a 600rr anyway.

I saw the anime cartoon bike by shortening your first link- neither link worked for me. Have you seen Akira? Kaneda's bike (red one) is pretty cool and has a unique seating position- check it out.

Good luck and please post some progress/ phone pics of sketches on napkins, or whatever !

radar

EDIT:
holy cow- this is an OOOOld thread!
oh well, still fun stuff

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Ahhhhhhhh, this thread is almost 7 years old.

I'm guessing the project never materialized.

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