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 Post subject: Ram Air set up
PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 6:35 pm 
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3 Deuce Weber

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Does anyone know the best way to make a ram air set up?

Something under the hood that can not be seen from the outside so keeping the stock look. Maybe a flex pipe into the front by the radiator?

I saw one for sale on ebay which has a pipe going into the fender (so stated the right up) But how would that work?

Any surgestions appreciated :roll:

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 7:42 pm 
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I have one of the 'F' body 'Fresh Air' setups, they went through the fender and got nice cold air from behind the driver's side headlight (much better than heated under hood air from the standard silenced air cleaner).

I don't have a matching pie tin any more, but I do have the plastic duct (you'll need to modify to make it work for an A-body), and the flexible hose. Some 1 barrel cars came this way, maybe someone will sell a pietin with freshair snorkel to you on the cheap.

I'll dig it out tomorrow and take a picture for you.

-D.Idiot


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 8:48 pm 
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The easiest way would be as DI suggested to use the F-body air cleaner. I think for true ram air, you might need to mount the intake into the rad support rather than going behind the headlight.

Something else you might want to consider: if you make a big increase in the air going to the engine you might want to adjust the jetting. A land speed racer that I met over the summer found that his top speed went down after hooking up a ram air system. I scanned some information about Chrysler hood scoop science for him but never found out if it were any use to him. You can find it at the following web page for now:

http://www.geocities.com/frankraso2000/scans.html

Frank


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 Post subject: ramit
PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 6:27 pm 
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Location: Houston ,Tx.
Car Model: '63 Dart GT Convertible
On my 63 dart I found there to be a perfect round hole in the core support, by the battery tray. Then the cogs began turning, What could I use for na intake tube to tie into the 66 air cleaner base I'm using? I have the 2bbl set up. While at the pick a part I found the "right" part. I believe it comes from a K car or other front drive. It is an intake tube that is very flexible and with a little trimming works great. Ihave taken photos with a phone, but now need to get them on line here.I sent them to my e-mail just to save them. Maybe someone here knows how I can do this. Anyway the set-up works great nand don't look half bad either.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 6:35 pm 
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Location: Houston ,Tx.
Car Model: '63 Dart GT Convertible
Oh yeah! *I guess i could e-mail them to someone too.


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 Post subject: Here you go...
PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 8:49 pm 
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I'd sell the plastic fender tube, and the flex hose for $5+shipping. The pietin with the correct snorkel is just for 'show', that's my only real super six pietin left (I still need it!!!!).

Sorry it took so long, family came first today! :wink:

-D.Idiot


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 Post subject: Options
PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 5:59 pm 
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I installed an F body fresh air package into my GT by cutting a hole in the fender next to the battery. with some tweaking it aligns perfectly with the matching air cleaner.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 10:52 am 
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Location: South Florida
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My junkyard setup... I used a 'lean burn' pie tin for the super six install because the orginal one had been scarfed already. If you plug up the opening for the LB electrical box it should work just like the correct one. Plus I think it's kinda comical to have the LB sticker on there. Someday I'll by the right one but it won't make me go any faster so no rush.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 5:40 am 
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Northeast Scamp,

It's hard to tell from your photo where is the air intake. It looks as if it is drawing air from between the battery and the rad support. If that's the case, it would be more of a fresh air setup than a ram air setup. You've done a nice job with the installation, BTW.

A ram air setup, however, would have to draw it air supply from a high pressure area resulting from the speed of the car. The forward side of the rad support would be a convenient place. Just something to think about.

Frank


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 6:02 am 
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4 BBL ''Hyper-Pak''

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Your right Frank, just fresh air, hopefully cooler than if drawn from the open snorkle position. I've cut the hard plastic tube at a pretty funky angle and it seals up to the rad support opening behind the driver side blinker light housing fairly well.

I'm planning on adding some light sheet metal to further seal the intake area off from the rest of the engine compartment, just for the heck of it.

Never been to a junkyard before I started messing with this car, now I look forwared to each trip and wonder what I might find!
Todd

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 6:39 am 
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Here's my similar setup. I used a flexible bilge vent hose from a Yamaha WaterCraft to connect the air cleaner horn to an existing hole in the radiator support behind the grill. Image

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 7:57 pm 
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Location: Houston ,Tx.
Car Model: '63 Dart GT Convertible
Guy LR, that looks like mine, only much newer and prettier. Good job and damn clean.


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 Post subject: Desert Hog Air filter
PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 8:36 pm 
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Has anyone tryed the Desert Hog air filter with the ram air set up? It fits in the pie tin like a regular air filter but has the flow capabilities of a K & N type filter. I think it is sold at Kragens/checker stores.

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