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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:00 pm 
My 1965 dart has the stock alternator and a 1974 voltage regulator installed by PO. Are the Alt and regulator compatible?


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The '70-up regulator requires a two field wire alternator.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 9:24 am 
I think you can ground one of the fields, and run the other field to the regulator, but I have not tried it myself, so I am not completely sure...


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Sorry, I must learn to read soon... :oops:


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 12:23 am 
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Yes they are. Go over to moparts.com and look in the tech archives, they got some good intell on the subject with link for even more intell.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:06 am 
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Yes they are. Go over to moparts.com and look in the tech archives, they got some good intell on the subject with link for even more intell.
I still don't think so (could be wrong...). I went, I searched, I read and I didn't come up with any adviso on moparts.com on how to make a newer style electronic VR work with a one field-wire alt. Are you sure you're not confusing converting a two-wire alt to work with an older (pre-'70) regulator? That's as simple as grounding one field terminal at the alternator. If I missed something there, please give the exact quote or link. I'd be interested to know how they did it.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:25 am 
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My question is why did you have a 74 vol reg installed?You can get a 66 and earlier electronic voltage reg if thats what you are going for.

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The '70-up electronic regulator cannot be made to work with the '60-'69 single-field alternator.

The '70-up two-field alternator can easily be made to work with the '60-'69 regulator, by simply running a wire between one (either) of the alternator's two field terminals and a good ground.

The original '60-'69 regulators are electromechanical (with contact points, springs and resistors). They work fine, but after a few decades can require adjustment or even stick. There are plenty of different regulators compatible with the '60-'69 single-field alternators, but the '70-up Mopar regulator is NOT one of them.

Regular normal OE-identical electromechanical regulator:

NAPA Echlin VR32

Extra heavy duty electromechanical regulator w/vibrationproof mount:

NAPA Echlin VR34

Extra heavy duty electromechanical regulator w/vibrationproof mount and
convenient external voltage adjustment screw:

NAPA Echlin VR35, Standard-Bluestreak VR106

Transistorized regulator with no moving parts (no adjusting screw):

Standard-Bluestreak VR101, Wells VR706 (the wells item is very
inexpensive; it works but Wells doesn't make my favourite stuff)

Waterproof potted IC regulator with no moving parts (no adjusting screw):

NAPA Echlin VR1001, Standard-Bluestreak VR-128


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The '70-up two-field alternator can easily be made to work with the '60-'69 regulator, by simply running a wire between one (either) of the alternator's two field terminals and a good ground.
An even easier way is to replace the insulative (plastic or phenolic) washer on one of the brushes with a metal one, thereby grounding it. Just be careful to hook the field wire to the other spade! :shock:

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DW, that doesn't reliably work. The '72-up alternators in particular have a different (fully enclosed) brush holder design that is not groundable via the brush holder screw. Some of the '70-'71 alternators can be done this way.


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DW, that doesn't reliably work. The '72-up alternators in particular have a different (fully enclosed) brush holder design that is not groundable via the brush holder screw. Some of the '70-'71 alternators can be done this way.
Well, it's alwez worked for me!!! :lol:

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You must either have a mountain of '70-early '71 alternators or...wait, I know, you're using those Mopar alternators that come from another planet! :lol:


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Those other-planet alts are sooooooo much better than the us built ones...

You said the PO installed............
Does it work?
If it works, I would say they are compatible.
If not, it would be nice to "upgrade" to a 2-field alt, if it broke down somewhere, you have a better chanse to find the later ones I guess.


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You must either have a mountain of '70-early '71 alternators or...wait, I know, you're using those Mopar alternators that come from another planet! :lol:
Could be. Could also be that most of the replacement brush insulators are what you are calling the '70-'71 style. I almost exclusively use squareback alternators...

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 2:26 pm 
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solid state electronic voltage regulator $9.99
jc whitney pt#SH737133U
61-69 chrysler,dodge plymouth

I have had this part on my 65 Dart with pertronix and orig single field alt for 2yrs.Works flawless.

JZ


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