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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:09 pm 
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Hi guys,

Need some help. Found a possible parts car (yes I realize this means I will be crucified by my better half, but play along with my fantasy for a moment) and wanted to know a few things about it.

First off, its a 67 Valiant, with a non-running 273. It has a suregrip rear (I believe 8.75, but haven't seen it yet to be sure) with an unknown ratio. Here's my undereducated train of thought that needs some help:


  • 1) Is this a BBP rear end on a 67 v8?
    2) 904 trans? (how would i know the diff between a 904 and 727?
    3) (the kicker) If this is a 904, could I take the tailshaft and driveshaft and replace mine with this one, therefore avoiding driveshaft shortening and eliminating the ball and trunion? Here I'm totally in the dark and need some light
Just pondering...is this a possible/desirable thing?

Thanks!

MJ


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:29 pm 
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Need some help. Found a possible parts car (yes I realize this means I will be crucified by my better half
"Hi, honey, I'm home. Oh, by the way, I know we're moving clear across the country in a month and the house must at every moment be so pristine and tidy that it looks as though nobody lives here except the housekeeper who comes once a week to clean and tidy even though nobody lives here, all despite our having a small and energetic kid, but I bought a parts car. Hope you don't mind. What's fer dinner?"

Yeah, I'd say you need some help. :-D This reminds me of that old oil filter commercial: Pay a little now or a lot later. D'you want a little help now, or are you intent on going for a lot of help later?

(You'll have to excuse me. I've just read "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas".)
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its a 67 Valiant, with a non-running 273. It has a suregrip rear (I believe 8.75, but haven't seen it yet to be sure) with an unknown ratio.
Could easily be an 8-3/4, but could also be a 9-bolt (7-1/4). Any idea what brakes it has, and whether it's a 2bbl or a 4bbl?
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Is this a BBP rear end on a 67 v8?
No, it's SPB. No BBP on A-bodies til '73.
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904 trans?
That won't fit your \6, yes, almost certainly.

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(how would i know the diff between a 904 and 727?
904 has a square pan with one corner cut off. 727 has a bulged-out left front corner of the pan rail.

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could I take the tailshaft and driveshaft and replace mine with this one
No, 'cause the '67 tailshaft won't fit your '62 trans (no provisions to drive the rear pump).
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therefore avoiding driveshaft shortening
Nuh-uh. If you install an 8-3/4" or 10-bolt (8-1/4") in your '62, you'll have to shorten the driveshaft regardless. The difference in driveshaft length isn't due to the trans tailshaft, it's due to the wheelbase of the car and the forward projection of the rear axle.
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and eliminating the ball and trunion?
No reason to eliminate the B/T unless it's in need of rebuilding and/or the driveshaft has to be shortened. B/T front U-joints work great.
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Here I'm totally in the dark and need some light
Awshoot, I shouldn't have responded. I don't know a damn thing about light.

Sounds to me, seriously, as if everybody involved would be a lot happier if you left this parts car for somebody with a closer recipient-car match...


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 8:24 pm 
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i agree! The only good part was its on the west coast so I wouldnt' have to move it ;-)

Thanks Dan, i can stay married! I just thought it was worth investigating.


Let there be LIGHT!


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 12:55 pm 
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Who ordered this oncoming train ! :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:08 pm 
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I did! :D

Ok next question: what modifications of my drivetrain would be required to put this rear end in? Assuming my ball and trunion is ok (which I think it is) would the end of my driveshaft mate up with the 8.75? If not what's involved?

thanks!

MJ


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:35 pm 
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If the repalcement rear end is an 8 3/4 you will need to shorten the drive shaft about 2 inches and if the yoke ("knuckle") is the larger type, you will need a special U-joint to adapt. (it could be the same size, there is a "large and small" yoke size offered for the 8 3/4 rears)
DD


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:21 pm 
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Ok i'll measure mine, and then measure the 8 3/4 and see what I come up with.

thanks!

MJ


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