I was wondering if anyone noticed that Jegs sells the MP header for really cheap compared to other headers. I was wondering for anyone who knows or has the MP header if it will fit the 66 and back Abodies. So far the Cliffords are the only ones that will. I had the opportunity to buy a Hooker supercomp header and a offy 4 barrel intake with a edelbrock carb on it but he wanted to sell them both and wouldnt sell them seperate and wanted 300 bucks for em. The supercomps wont fit pre 67 Abodies otherwise I would have bought em. Also Jegs has 4 or 5 different cams for a slant but they dont give u any info on them at all. Anyway just wanted to see if those MP headers would fit pre 67 a bodies.

thanks

Those headers can be "made to fit", but it ain't pretty. If you have a column shifter I wouldn't even try.

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Charrlie_S
65 Valiant 100 2dr post 170 turbo
66 Valiant Signet 170 nitrous
64 Valiant Signet
64 Valiant 4dr 170
64 Valiant 4dr 225

So basically its either clifford or no header. And i do have a column shift.
Well if clifford didnt want 350 bucks for theirs then i wouldnt mind do much. Are their any other headers out there that anyone knows about?

And the answer is........No.

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I have run 12 second ETs through "Dutra Duals", they are a good compromise, especially if you are working on a "street-strip" type car.
DD

I have been trying to get a "header" person to build some early "A" slant six headers, both for the 170 and 225. He can copy my Cliffords. Trouble is everytime I get an OK, he gets busy, with other work. If he does the slant headers, they would be "fill in" work.

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Charrlie_S
65 Valiant 100 2dr post 170 turbo
66 Valiant Signet 170 nitrous
64 Valiant Signet
64 Valiant 4dr 170
64 Valiant 4dr 225

Charlie,

What if you could guarantee him a lot of 5+ sets. Would that get his attention?

Lou

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I will ask him, but not untill after the first of the year. He works a full time job, and is getting a bunch of year end overtime, so he is not doing any headers until then.

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Charrlie_S
65 Valiant 100 2dr post 170 turbo
66 Valiant Signet 170 nitrous
64 Valiant Signet
64 Valiant 4dr 170
64 Valiant 4dr 225

Is the MP header the 6 into 1? Would it fit my 64 Dart with pushbutton auto? It would be nice to have options.

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64 Dart 170 /6

Just had a phone call, from the guy that makes the headers, and we had a discussion. Main question:
Long tube, similar to the old Clifford, or "shorty style". I will start a new thread, in the "other" forum.

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Charrlie_S
65 Valiant 100 2dr post 170 turbo
66 Valiant Signet 170 nitrous
64 Valiant Signet
64 Valiant 4dr 170
64 Valiant 4dr 225

Can anyone tell me how big of a pain it would be to fit a Mopar Header into my 1964 Dart?

thanks,
josh

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64 Dart 170 /6

ya Dutra Duals are very good for a street/strip manifold. You could buy the front part and just cut up your current manifold to make the rear, doesnt look like it would take much and save money plus ive read that headers were only worth about a tenth in the quarter as said by doug himself who tested dutra duals vs headers.

i myself to save money probably would have gone this route on my 66 mp headers wouldnt fit plus its a colum shift but i was going to covert to a 4 speed

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The dart as it sits now

I bought one of the MP headers for my Demon. It is a 6 into 1 with a 3" collector. Fit well and worked well, but I did have to file most of the mounting holes oval to bet it to bolt up right and not ruin the gaskets in a few days. The bolt hole pattern was off a little bit compared to the ports. After massaging it, I did my usual header gasket trick. I use 2 gaskets and glue them together with Permatex 3H (thick brown stuff in a small bottle with a bruch cap) and then glue both sides so that it sticks to the head and the header. After that, it was fine!

As far as cams go, I ran the .460 lift 268 duration MP cam and it ran GREAT! The car had a single 3" exhasut system all the way out the rear and people always thought it was a 340 car. It had that great rumpy V8 sound at idle and a cool moan cruising. I used a Flowmaster 5" thick SUV muffler and thier 3" universal tailpipe kit to get the mandrel bends up over the axle. I also used a late model head to get rid of the spark plug tubes and ported the bowls.

It all worked out pretty well. I should have kept THAT car instead of the Rampage I kept. Even with all that stuff on it and driving it having fun, the Demon still got about 17 mpg.

A guy out in NC bought it - wondering if it's still around.........

Marc
www.marcmedina.com

Charlie_S and I know someone who put the MP header into a '66 Dart.
He unbolted the motor mounts, raised the motor up with a hoist, bolted on the header, then drop slammed it back into the engine bay. Then he fixed all the crushed pipes. As Charlie_S said, it will go, but it's ugly.

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