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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 1:29 am 
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Hey there

I'm kinda wanting to trash my slippy torque converter, but I need to know how to pick a good one (quality and app. compatible)

My mill being a rebuilt /6 mildly modified, noisy about stock lift extra duration "not-so-lumpy-idle" cam, headers with balance pipe, H 2300 2 bbl, 3.07 rear gears soon to be changed to 3.31, and a freshened 904 (everything but the TC) both with less than 20k miles on them

My goals being a good all-around power, if I have to favour one power band being low and mid (ain't sees more than 4k rpm tops on regular basis)

Tradeups I'm willing to do: I don't mind stiffer, firmer shifts. Don't want excess of slippage. I want a good, healty transmission to match my heavy-proned right foot.

I do want to get a transgo stage 2 shift kit for this transmission
I have a deep sump pan for installing on it when I pop it open for all the changes (do I need special filter or other stuff??)

I need to learn about stall speed, diameter, etc.
I need to get information on who may I contact for getting my converter and/or the other stuff (shift kit, etc) (online avalible is preferred)

Thanks in advance for all the information you're going to give me :D

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 6:48 am 
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I'm kinda wanting to trash my slippy torque converter,
Just put Paul Simon's "Slip-slidin' Away" on the stereo and turn it up really loud. Problem solved.
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but I need to know how to pick a good one (quality and app. compatible)
Well, the stock converters met those requirements. As far as rebuilts, you pretty much have to go on reputation of the source. I don't know what the level of craftsmanship is like down there as far as aftermarket parts for old Dodges...
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My goals being a good all-around power, if I have to favour one power band being low and mid (ain't sees more than 4k rpm tops on regular basis)
Says "Stock converter" to me.
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I don't mind stiffer, firmer shifts. I do want to get a transgo stage 2 shift kit for this transmission
H'mmm. Y'sure? That's a pretty severe kit. If you're driving this car all of the time, unless you truly don't mind "romper el culo" shifts all day/every day.
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I have a deep sump pan for installing on it when I pop it open for all the changes (do I need special filter or other stuff??)
You need a filter extension to lower the filter level to its proper place near the bottom of the pan. These are not hard to find (up here!) if you have a standard deep-sump pan.
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I need to get information on who may I contact for getting my converter and/or the other stuff (shift kit, etc) (online avalible is preferred)
Oh, you're looking to order out of North America?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:15 pm 
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Just put Paul Simon's "Slip-slidin' Away" on the stereo and turn it up really loud. Problem solved.
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Well, the stock converters met those requirements. As far as rebuilts, you pretty much have to go on reputation of the source. I don't know what the level of craftsmanship is like down there as far as aftermarket parts for old Dodges...
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My goals being a good all-around power, if I have to favour one power band being low and mid (ain't sees more than 4k rpm tops on regular basis)
Says "Stock converter" to me.
OK so given the choice btwn getting a new converter or getting an original mopar converter fixed, (I mean, an original good made in the usa converter wich happens to have the neck cracked) you'd get the original thing fixed (I have a very good reputable converters rebuilding shop down here)
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H'mmm. Y'sure? That's a pretty severe kit. If you're driving this car all of the time, unless you truly don't mind "romper el culo" shifts all day/every day.
:lol: you know ehat did you write there, don't you?? :lol:
About the transgo, if the kit would feel like "clunk" when shifting but shifting would happen @ normal shifting rpm (yeah, I know, KD setting would change this) I'll live with that. If shifting is 1st till 4k rpm then KLUNK then 2nd till 4k rpm and so on, then no sir. Maybe I recall wrong and I wanted to get a transgo stage 1? I want improved flow, better, firmer shifting (explained above) extended trans life on "severe" daily driver duty (not from towing but from my driving habbits) and still retain auto shifting (don't want a manual valvle body)
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You need a filter extension to lower the filter level to its proper place near the bottom of the pan. These are not hard to find (up here!) if you have a standard deep-sump pan.
Yeah, I'm about nailing one on ebay right now. item is 8048611508. If I win I can get the necessary extra parts from there... remember that my sister lives in philly now :D
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Oh, you're looking to order out of North America?
If I were tu buy a new one, yes. I can't get new converters down here (not even new stock replacements) wobron argentina did produce them a while back... (wow, more than 20 years back actually, no wonder why I'm getting bald and cranky) but then they dropped the production since they were less than 10k dodge coronados produced overall and not all of them had automatic transmissions, plus the wobron ar converter wah thicker and demanded some spacer between the good old 904 and the /6... cheesy... that's why I swapped and old, half worn original us-mopar converter in the first place.

so, I rather get a new stock converter or have my replacement good low usage but broken neck one repaired?? they cut it open, renew and check everything inside, make the new neck, weld it, and balance the whole thing up again. This would be the less hassling job since I got to keep my spare flexplates, OEM bolts packages, etc)

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 7:06 am 
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OK so given the choice btwn getting a new converter or getting an original mopar converter fixed, (I mean, an original good made in the usa converter wich happens to have the neck cracked) you'd get the original thing fixed (I have a very good reputable converters rebuilding shop down here)
If you've got a reputable rebuild shop, go for it! Most rebuilders can tweak the converter to your specs when they build it. But they do work great in daily-driver service with stock specs. I think a lot people get carried away specifying higher stall speeds. This reduces fuel economy and increases transmission heating, and in many cases there is no concommitant benefit received.
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:lol: you know ehat did you write there, don't you?? :lol:
Are you kidding? I had to do 10 minutes' research to figure out how to say it correctly! ;-)
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a transgo stage 1? I want improved flow, better, firmer shifting (explained above) extended trans life on "severe" daily driver duty (not from towing but from my driving habbits) and still retain auto shifting
Your choice may differ, but me, I'd put in a TransGo SK-TFSC rather than a "stage-anything". Hard shifts are like loud exhausts: Fun and exciting for a couple weeks, then annoying after that. The TFSC will get the slop out of the shifts, make them quicker and firmer without being harsh, improve fluid flow and extend trans life, while still maintaining full auto shifting.
(don't want a manual valvle body)
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Yeah, I'm about nailing one on ebay right now. item is 8048611508
Price is good, but auction does not mention the filter extension...
You may want to send mail to Torqueflite Patty (Pat Blais, tflitepatty@verizon.net ) and see what he recommends.

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I disagree with th ecomment on the Transgo Stage 2 being a pretty harsh kit. IMO is is a perfect street upgrade. I have installed 2 of these kits, albeit both in newr Ram trucks (a '95 and a 2000, both half ton 4x4's).

My description of the shift; Not harsh, but very crisp. There is NO 'mushy' shift or overlap between gears. Rpm drop between shifts is immediate, but the shift does not snap you back in the seat. Caviat: If you really get on the go pedal, the shifts will snap you back in the seat. But under normal driving, I feel no harshness whatsoever. Just a clean, crisp, positive shift.

The install instructions give you some lee-way as to how you want the trans to shift. They give you a small range of holes sizes (either drilling new ones, or enlarging existing ones), and the instructions tell you what each step will do to the shift quality. If you are worried about shift harshness, go with the smallest recommended hole size in each step. In both of the instals I have done, I took the 'middle of the road' route, and am very pleased with the results.

My shift kit has been in for over a year, and the 'novelty' has not even come close to wearing off. ;)

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I disagree with th ecomment on the Transgo Stage 2 being a pretty harsh kit. IMO is is a perfect street upgrade. I have installed 2 of these kits, albeit both in newr Ram trucks (a '95 and a 2000, both half ton 4x4's).
I'm not sure that can be compared fairly to the earlier transmissions. Pretty large differences in valving, mounting, control setup, etc.

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so torqueflite patty may be a source for shift kit and/or filter extension?

I'm still making up my mind about the shift kit.

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so torqueflite patty may be a source for shift kit and/or filter extension?
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I disagree with th ecomment on the Transgo Stage 2 being a pretty harsh kit. IMO is is a perfect street upgrade. I have installed 2 of these kits, albeit both in newr Ram trucks (a '95 and a 2000, both half ton 4x4's).
I'm not sure that can be compared fairly to the earlier transmissions. Pretty large differences in valving, mounting, control setup, etc.
I would concede that for my 2000, which is fully electronically controlled, but the '95 was still hydraulically controlled via a kickdown cable.

With teh exception of addition of an OD unit, and some valve body and case modificiations to oil the OD unit, the internals of the transmissions did not change much, as is evidenced by the fact that A904/A500/42RH/42RE kits are the same, as are A727/A518/46RH/46RE kits.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:08 am 
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You guys got me wondering.... I drove a friend's car recently and he installed a stage 2 transgo kit. I liked it a lot... the shiftings where nice and firm, no overlap whatsoever, giving his tired stock mill somewhat better feel than my hopped up freshly rebuilt slant....

I think I'll go with the romper el culo shifts... :lol: but stock converter (or mild stall rise like 1400 rpm stall)

dan: how does that sounds for "not so hi stall yet no stock" ? I mean, 1400 rpm stall?

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