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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:47 pm 
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I've just gotten done installing the new Hurricane manifold.My setup is:
stock 225 w/ ported head
dual Dutra Duals
2 1/4 pipes to a 2 1/2 single exhaust
Locar kick down
Holley 390 vacuum secondary
14" drop base air cleaner.
2.97 open

I needed to do a some grinding on the manifold to get triangle washers to fit but other than that it fits well with the Dutra Duals. Much easier than My Clifford and the Dutra Duals. I also needed to use a longer throttle cable from a later slant six car... my V8 cable was too short but the Locar kick down worked fine. I did need to to make a new bracket to hold the throttle cable and kick down. It was a tight fit getting to all the bolts to torque to manifold correctly but I'll address that the next time I have the manifold off. Just a little more grinding on both intake and exhaust manifolds.
I haven't done any tuning on the carburetor yet, its new out of the box or even adjusted the timing yet but first driving impressions are good. The throttle response is very good, it easily spins the rear tire with my 2.94 gears. I was a little surprised.

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There is good clearance with the drop base air cleaner enough that I could add a carb spacer if needed.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:56 pm 
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Wow, that's a wild looking intake. I like.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:03 pm 
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The throttle response is very good, it easily spins the rear tire with my 2.94 gears. I was a little surprised.
That's because the longer runners build a better torque band in the mid range, make sure to watch it, if still using a 7 1/4" open rear you may grenade it having too much fun...

Install looks good, looks like there it just enough room for a dual pot master cylinder, the only thing to worry about is cold weather driveability,
I think switching the carb with the secondaries toward the driver's fender would probably make things ideal.

More shake down info will be nice.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:07 pm 
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Nice installation! I will be keen to see this installed in a '60-'62 Valiant/Lancer w/dual master cylinder and aircon. :shock: Are you running the (available) plenum heater?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:19 pm 
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Darn you guys, with so many ordering these this is definetly tempting... we're running an Offenhauser intake with an Edel 650. One thing I think could be an issue with the 62's; the runners are much longer, possibly putting the air cleaner under an even lower spot in the hood. I had clearance issue with a Super Six air cleaner a few years back. and we've all seen the Hyperpak cars with the air cleaner cutout in the hood. My Valiant is going to be my daily when I get it back, I don't know if I'd want that cutout in a daily... bust.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:20 pm 
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The throttle response is very good, it easily spins the rear tire with my 2.94 gears. I was a little surprised.
That's because the longer runners build a better torque band in the mid range, make sure to watch it, if still using a 7 1/4" open rear you may grenade it having too much fun...

Install looks good, looks like there it just enough room for a dual pot master cylinder, the only thing to worry about is cold weather driveability,
I think switching the carb with the secondaries toward the driver's fender would probably make things ideal.

More shake down info will be nice.

-D.Idiot
I have a 8 3/4 rear end in the car so I'm not too worried although I did thrash my large bolt pattern axles and a 741 3.23 posi when I had the turbo on the car. I've been demoted to small bolt pattern axles and an open rear end until I fine another 742 or 489 cased posi.

I do have the plenum heater for the manifold and I will probably install it at some time although I am not sure how I am going to attach/weld it. I had assumed that it would be open on one side so the hot water would contact the manifold. Its not it, so do I weld it and have good contact around the welded edge or glue it with some type of metal filled epoxy and try to get good heat transfer that way. The third option would be to cut the bottom off of it and weld or epoxy it on and have water contacting the bottom of the manifold. I'm not sure what I'm going to do at this point.

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Oh...no water actually contacting the underside of the intake? That's disappointing. :-( Not going to work very well. Perhaps there can someday be a rev-2 version of the intake that has a gasket flange with drilled and tapped screw holes on the underside of the plenum, with a matching gasket flange on an open-topped water box. Or perhaps the water box could just be cast right into the plenum...

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:48 am 
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Lookin' good Rob! Thanks for the pics. :D

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:24 am 
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I have to agree with Dan on that one, that's not a good option... I actually had to fab up a exhaust heat box for my Hpak, as the driveability with ambient temps at 50 degrees or less really made things rough, no direct water means a slow warm up for the box, which means a cranky cold engine for warm up (you might be able to ofset that if you can make a thermostatic air cleaner like the stock setup would have....)

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Looking nice...How is the carb base angle suiting you?..it looks pretty good from the pictures.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:12 pm 
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I have to agree with Dan on that one, that's not a good option... I actually had to fab up a exhaust heat box for my Hpak, as the driveability with ambient temps at 50 degrees or less really made things rough, no direct water means a slow warm up for the box, which means a cranky cold engine for warm up (you might be able to ofset that if you can make a thermostatic air cleaner like the stock setup would have....)

-d.Idiot
I did a little testing this morning, the choke only stayed on for about the first minute, it still needs some adjustment, but it wasn't nearly as cold blooded as my my old Cifford manifold(water heated). With my Clifford the car had to be all the way warmed up for it to run good. This manifold seams to work much better as the engine is warming up. I'm sure it has much better fuel distribution than a Clifford manifold. I will probably save the heater box for a winter time project if its really needed. So far is doesn't seam necessary.

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Great to see and hear, Rob! Gotta get me one...

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Why did I buy an Offy? Oh yeah, didn't know abouth these.

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Ford made some nice water heated plates for their V8's, about 1/2" thick. I have seen them for both 2v and 4v. I am running a 2v version under my 2100.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:31 pm 
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wanna sell your turbo setup? my van is way too slow:)

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