Red:

http://www.amazon.com/Innovate-Motorspo ... 670&sr=8-3


Blue:

http://www.amazon.com/Innovate-Motorspo ... 627&sr=8-2


I'm leaning towards Red..............



Anybody get the SSI

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/ssi_4.php

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Ed
64 Valiant 225 / 904 / 42:1 manual steering / 9" drum brakes

Wht color are the other lights on your dash? If yellow, then either color would be fine. If blue or red, then I would match those. Blue is cool, red is easier to read, I think.

It will be great to have another Inovate user on the forum that I can bug when I feel too dumb to figure things out. I have never gone beyond simply hooking things up and reading the AF ratio. There are tons of features I simply ignore. Go for it.

As for the SSI, the previous paragraph answers that one.

Sam

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I have the Blue Innjovate LC-1 / gauge package in my '79 duster I can read it all of the time in the brightest sun and when You pull the headlights on it dims out too. This is on a daily Driver - I am guessing the red would be about the asme but I have no personal experience with that one.



Greg

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http://www.youtube.com/hyperpack

I'll be moving it around, so matching isn't a concern.


I don't know if my glasses (I'm really nearsighted) make it harder than most people, but blue light isn't in focus when everything else is in focus (or blue is in focus and everything else isn't) which is why I'm leaning towards the red....


Plus red seems lower-key rather than 'look-at-me'

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Ed
64 Valiant 225 / 904 / 42:1 manual steering / 9" drum brakes

Is this for your Valiant?

Sam

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Do not get the blue if you can't stand the blue. Get red. Some people have problem with blue lighted stuff, especially blue clocks look more blurred.

Blue is much shorter wavelength and even projector TV (3 CRTs old days of yore) had harder time keeping blue focused enough and many had to place blue CRT higher than other green and red (focal distrances).

Cheers, Wizard

yes and no


I'll move it between the valiant (carb), truck (EFI), motorcycle (carb) as a tuning aid.

Although it might stay in(on) a vehicle for awhile..................

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Ed
64 Valiant 225 / 904 / 42:1 manual steering / 9" drum brakes

Then there's this one:


http://www.amazon.com/AEM-30-5130-Analo ... 578&sr=1-1

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Ed
64 Valiant 225 / 904 / 42:1 manual steering / 9" drum brakes

I've been searching the web on the innovate, and it seems people have had problems with them (even shows up on the innovate forum)

Haven't seen any negatives on the AEM...............


Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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Ed
64 Valiant 225 / 904 / 42:1 manual steering / 9" drum brakes

I picked up the allusions to an earlier problem with Innovate that they have corrected. There have been hints of this in the discussions I have read, and dealers have alluded to this from time to time. When I called last week to check on the controller that I sent back for "repair", they said that "If it was something simple", they would "repair" it for free,(even though it is over 2 years out of warranty.) . I took this to mean, "If they discovered it was an early, defective unit" they would simply replace it, and not let me know anything about a defect. I said thank you very much, and left it at that.

If I were you, I would call their tech line, and simply ask straight forward, " I hear there have been some defective units in the past. Has this been dealt with?" See what they say. Matt Cramer likes them very much. However, I would not mount it in a place that will be difficult to retrieve in the event it stops working. You are right out there near them somewhere. Maybe even go in and ask, if they have a counter.

Sam

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Blue is sweet although it is hard to see at night with presbyopic eyes. I have had two of the Innovate LC-1s so far and they have both performed flawlessly. My first one ran for about 5 years until I lost it in a shop fire, no problems. I would probably go with the LC-1 again although that AEM system looks good and the price is right.

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It's a Slant thing. Even I don't understand.

1974 Duster, EFI /6 soon to be turbo...

Get that Monkay! Get that nasty thing!!

AEM has a sllightly more expensive version that has a RS232 output (about same price as LC-1 with gauge above) that you can just use hyperterminal with.


But it seems that AEM has it's own set of problems............


Found the AEM forum and that's where the problems are mentioned.


Innovate is in Huntington Beach, CA
AEM is in Hawthorne, CA


Both would be easy to deal with locally............


Both companies have data acquistion products, with (IMO) Innovate being a better deal for getting more than AF mixture......

Or since the innovate SSI-4 can take inputs that are between 0-5v, I could always take the output of the AEM as an input to the innovate.


And for both it's cheaper to go thru Amazon to get the product... (discounted, no shipping cost, no sales tax) rather than buying locally. (unless they have a severely discounted refurbs available locally)


AEMs gauge doesn't have a calibration mode (I've heard the sensor need to be calibrated after awhile), so I'm leaning back to the LC-1.


I should get a 12v Hobbs meter that runs when the gauge is on so I know how many hours it's been running.................

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Ed
64 Valiant 225 / 904 / 42:1 manual steering / 9" drum brakes

Got a RED one..............


ebay 190462423145

2 are left



I was delayed because I needed to design and test a circuit that delays turning on the O2 sensor for 2 minutes after the engine is started.

(water condensation in exhaust pipe hitting a hot sensor on initial startup seems to be a problem.......)

PM me if you want the circuit design.

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Ed
64 Valiant 225 / 904 / 42:1 manual steering / 9" drum brakes

Got some requests......

So I guess I have to make a computer version.


Give me a couple of days to make a readable and documented version....

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Ed
64 Valiant 225 / 904 / 42:1 manual steering / 9" drum brakes

Hi Ed, I got the ciruit via e-mail. Thanks a bunch.

They say if you run the exhaust for too long without power to the sensor itself, that you can burn it out. What have you heard about that, and are you concerned about this in waiting to turn the LC-1 on?

Sam

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